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“Dig once” bill could bring fiber Internet to much of the US

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Re: “Dig once” bill could bring fiber Internet to much of the US

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This is a great bill. It creates a slight public subsidy for broadband, but the total amount of subsidy is minimized by tying it to digging that's already going to be done. This should be extended to power line and water pipe construction. No reason you can't put in some dark fiber while you've got someone up there hanging new power line (which I imagine is way more expensive). Most importantly, it minimizes market d…

Just a fun fact, wholesale power lines are about $1mm/mile.

Re: “Dig once” bill could bring fiber Internet to much of the US

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I think the breakdown should roughly be: developers must wire out to the property line (and if they're building a subdivision, out to the main road). The county should wire anywhere a public road is being built and bring glass to some reasonably convenient place (because otherwise developers would have nothing to connect the other end of the line to). Private companies should handle everything that's not dumb glass.…

Why are we even building suburban subdivisions and strip malls still? Maybe if we utilized the infrastructure in urban areas (and even existing suburbs) we wouldn't have the need to keep investing in new infrastructure while our old infrastructure crumbles.

> Why are we even building suburban subdivisions and strip malls still

Not everyone wants to live in an apartment building.

Re: “Dig once” bill could bring fiber Internet to much of the US

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Or for me, accidentally cut the copper line to the rest of the neighborhood and had to dig a trench in my front yard to repair it. I'm on the corner and towards the front of the subdivision, so I had quite a bit of work being done over the past 6 months.

And they leave a pile of dirt, plant the wrong grass sod, put the sprinklers in the wrong place, and then tell you that they are done because it's just "cosmetic" issues left? Sounds so familiar.

Time to get your hands dirty, then!

Re: “Dig once” bill could bring fiber Internet to much of the US

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> think the idea is to get fiber into the last mile. Vast parts of the country are still under construction. New subdivisions are being built Such an interesting subject is this; we have freaking building codes, regulations and requirements - esp re: elec and structure and such... We need to take a step back and make a freaking INFRA code that requires what the data line requirements to a building should be. DATA SHO…

A "radical" idea I'm advocating for, is that all of the following is concidered nessesary for the society, and thus should be done by the government, or heavyly regulared (non profit, enduser owned type of companies): - Roads - Water - Sewer - Community heat - Healthcare - Education - Pension - Internet connectivity - Banking (including loans for 1 family houses) and card payment

Off the top of my head, you're also missing electricity, food, shelter, clothing, and entertainment. Those are more necessary than some of the things you've listed here.

So I guess we'll have the government own or heavily regulate 90% of the economy. Gee, that's historically worked so well in the past... :)

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