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Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by jfager »

dkersten wrote: post #100
jfager wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a small greasemonkey script for blacklisting, it definitely helps keep the site useful for me. http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/55745 I also second the suspicions about whitelisting being a desirable thing.

Though an interesting people list might be good - comments by people on the list are highlighted so you can spot them easier, this way you can choose the people whos comments you like to be highlighted. Coupled with a blacklist to hid (or make less obvious) the comments by people who you decide generally don't post interesting or useful comments could make dealing with large numbers of comments much much easier. Thou…

Sounds good, just added it. The script now offers white and black lists, where whitelisted users get an orange-highlighted username and blacklisted users get their comment text collapsed.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by drlisp »

drlisp wrote: post #19

This level of ass kissing makes me want to puke.

I think the fact that my comment didnt get downmodded out of existence shows how cool HN is. Nonetheless, the forum shouldnt (routinely?) engage in self-congradulatory homages to PG.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by horseass »

chaosmachine wrote: post #105
pg wrote: post #64

Thanks very much. I don't think it's really HN's features or lack of them is the attraction for most users though, but the quality of the submissions and comments. So thank you guys. Ironically I've been thinking of adding some variant of following as a way to deal with the increasing volume of comments. I just haven't had time to yet. I did recently (about 3 weeks ago) tweak the algorithm for ranking comments, and t…

Now it also considers among other things the average comment score of the submitter. Does this create a rich-get-richer type scenario, where users with high averages get more exposure, thus leading to higher averages?

boobie testucles boobie testucles boobie testucles One thing I like about hacker news is that some complete moron, like me, can write 'boobie testucles' in reply to the topmost comment, thus keeping the reply visible to all on top even if its voted down by the retarded masses who don't know what a good reply really is. Man, lisp sucks. Please vote my reply up, thanks!

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by spc476 »

mshafrir wrote: post #69
petercooper wrote: post #38

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hn's nested threads built with are so simple that they're brilliant. No horizontal scrolling, no flipping between pages, just click "reply" and you're good to go. I don't think s should get undue praise. With s, the code would be easier to read mechanically (for manipulation with Greasemonkey, say) and even though there'd be a little more CSS, the page weight might be reduced a little (I'd have to make a mockup to be…

Don't unordered lists make more sense than divs in this case?

dl might make more sense here---meta information about the post in a dt and the post itself in a dd.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by jedc »

pg wrote: post #126
dkersten wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though an interesting people list might be good - comments by people on the list are highlighted so you can spot them easier, this way you can choose the people whos comments you like to be highlighted. Coupled with a blacklist to hid (or make less obvious) the comments by people who you decide generally don't post interesting or useful comments could make dealing with large numbers of comments much much easier. Thou…

That seems like a good idea.

There's a "Hacker Friends" chrome extension that does exactly this.

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/mkdhfabjcebcgnpg...

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by elblanco »

MisterWebz wrote: post #123
Zancarius wrote: post #107

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Mr. Graham, I think we all owe you a great deal of thanks for HN, and I certainly think that we may not share this sentiment enough. Thank you, Mr. Graham. Simplicity in design truly is elegance, and I feel that--sometimes--too much flashy Web 2.0-related cruft tends to distract from the content (as the submitter points out). Certainly the Twitters and Facebooks of today and tomorrow have their uses, but I'm not so s…

Oh please, stop the ass kissing already. A simple 'Thank you' would suffice.

I wish pg was my Dad.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by ivankirigin »

pg wrote: post #125
chaosmachine wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now it also considers among other things the average comment score of the submitter. Does this create a rich-get-richer type scenario, where users with high averages get more exposure, thus leading to higher averages?

You can check by looking at the average comment scores on http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders (the second column). They haven't changed much as far as I can tell.

What is your average comment score? Any exception for your account? I don't think there needs to be one, just curious.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by philwelch »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #28
drlisp wrote: post #19

This level of ass kissing makes me want to puke.

I have to agree, actually. More to the point, this submission violates both the written and unspoken rules of submissions here: "Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something", and the unspoken rule that content-less submissions are generally frowned upon. This is something that could have been equally effective as a brief email to pg. As the current top-ranked post here, it's kind of ... masturbatory.

I don't know what's worse--meta-posts about how HN is dying, or self-congratulatory meta-posts like this. But if you have one, it helps to balance it out with the other.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by thunk »

horseass wrote: post #133
chaosmachine wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now it also considers among other things the average comment score of the submitter. Does this create a rich-get-richer type scenario, where users with high averages get more exposure, thus leading to higher averages?

boobie testucles boobie testucles boobie testucles One thing I like about hacker news is that some complete moron, like me, can write 'boobie testucles' in reply to the topmost comment, thus keeping the reply visible to all on top even if its voted down by the retarded masses who don't know what a good reply really is. Man, lisp sucks. Please vote my reply up, thanks!

You make a reasonable point in an, uh, illustrative way (they say "show, don't tell", right?). The vertical arrangement of comments by preorder traversal of comment trees gives some low quality comments "unfair" visibility. I don't see any solution (that maintains readability) apart from moving into a second or third dimension. The question is, is it a big enough problem to merit such a drastic response? Probably not.

Re: To Paul Graham

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Post by tokenadult »

nazgulnarsil wrote: post #72
pg wrote: post #64

Thanks very much. I don't think it's really HN's features or lack of them is the attraction for most users though, but the quality of the submissions and comments. So thank you guys. Ironically I've been thinking of adding some variant of following as a way to deal with the increasing volume of comments. I just haven't had time to yet. I did recently (about 3 weeks ago) tweak the algorithm for ranking comments, and t…

isn't this a less transparent version of the orange users experiment?

orange users experiment

Here is a link to the detailed thread about the experiment of putting user names of high-karma/comment users in orange,

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=467181

which as you'll see was a controversial experiment. (I post this link for the newer members of HN who weren't participating when the experiment was tried.)

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