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Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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This is your periodic reminder that Telegram uses sketchy crypto and should be avoided.

Most people who I know use Telegram(me included) use it because it's frankly the nicest(fast, looks good) Messenger out there, not because of its security features. Personally I don't use the secret chat functionality; I would use Signal if I wanted to communicate securely.

I don't choose my car for its seatbelts, but if they are broken, I reject the car.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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I will definitely try this because I have trouble with all other voice chat services including Skype, WhatsApp and Hangouts. Often one of those three will work but not always. But the most annoying problem with any internet voice chat is not so much the quality but the latency. Landline phones have noticeably lower voice quality but one can still enjoy a conversation perfectly well. High latency, on the other hand, a…

If you are on shitty wifi, no app will ever fix that.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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I happened to be reading a comparison of Telegram and Whatsapp this morning [1]. I've never used Whatsapp, is it really this bad or is the reviewer clearly a massive Telegram fanboy/girl? [1] https://info.seibert-media.net/display/Atlassian/Comparison+...

I've read the list, and although I have faith in its veracity (except for the "value" column) and Telegram appears to have a bunch of extra features, I'm sticking with WhatsApp. They both have the features I need. Note that they're both listed in the table as having "End-to-end encrypted chats" (value: "medium"?!)

There are a few factual errors in the list: The Telegram clients seem to be open source, but the server is proprietary. WhatsApp does have a native client for a few platforms; nobody knows about it because everyone just uses WhatsApp Web. WhatsApp has animated GIFs.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people who I know use Telegram(me included) use it because it's frankly the nicest(fast, looks good) Messenger out there, not because of its security features. Personally I don't use the secret chat functionality; I would use Signal if I wanted to communicate securely.

I don't choose my car for its seatbelts, but if they are broken, I reject the car.

Comparing the criteria of cars and messaging apps is futile.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal and WhatsApp both support multi-device encrypted chats. Signal is better than WhatsApp in this respect as your primary device doesn't need to be online for it to work.

Signal multi-device support is very limited. Doesn't support multiple mobile devices. Primary device must be a phone, all others must be desktop computers with Chrome.

If you want to use a standalone app then you can achieve it using NW.js

https://timtaubert.de/blog/2016/01/build-your-own-signal-des...

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal and WhatsApp both support multi-device encrypted chats. Signal is better than WhatsApp in this respect as your primary device doesn't need to be online for it to work.

Signal multi-device support is very limited. Doesn't support multiple mobile devices. Primary device must be a phone, all others must be desktop computers with Chrome.

This. I would love for Signal to have multiple mobile device support.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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I will definitely try this because I have trouble with all other voice chat services including Skype, WhatsApp and Hangouts. Often one of those three will work but not always. But the most annoying problem with any internet voice chat is not so much the quality but the latency. Landline phones have noticeably lower voice quality but one can still enjoy a conversation perfectly well. High latency, on the other hand, a…

>interleaving got enabled on my ADSL

What is interleaving in this context?

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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But seriously how do they pay their bills? (I know VK brothers are super rich) There are bots that relay huge media files It's probably (imo) the fastest & most complete cloud based chat app Everything.. Literally everything you share can be retrived over the cloud & and now calling That must be super expensive infrastructure? No investors no monetization

If Snapchat is worth $30B, surely Telegram is way more than that.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

#170

I will definitely try this because I have trouble with all other voice chat services including Skype, WhatsApp and Hangouts. Often one of those three will work but not always. But the most annoying problem with any internet voice chat is not so much the quality but the latency. Landline phones have noticeably lower voice quality but one can still enjoy a conversation perfectly well. High latency, on the other hand, a…

Can relate, I remember enjoying more talking with friends in TeamSpeak than with my girlfriend via skype/hangouts/facebook call... now with a discord server, talking with friends is so much easier, but quality is not as good as TS... but still convenience beats quality, and the loss is not that bad.

I've been using TS recently on a consulting project, after my client suggested we use it, due to issues sometimes with Skype. Seems good so far, though not used it for many days yet. Needs a server though. The software is free for a basic version. I think it supports multiple people on the call, though we haven't tried that yet. And seems to have many features overall, not tried them out yet, but will try some over time.
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