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Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.
I highly recommend you check out WIRE. Cheers
I happened to be reading a comparison of Telegram and Whatsapp this morning [1]. I've never used Whatsapp, is it really this bad or is the reviewer clearly a massive Telegram fanboy/girl? [1] https://info.seibert-media.net/display/Atlassian/Comparison+...
Note that they're both listed in the table as having "End-to-end encrypted chats" (value: "medium"?!)
I'm using Telegram as my main messaging system but I hope they'll open source everything. That's the only way to fully audit the service. Telegram is not too bad but has too many grey areas at this moment.
Unless you strictly use end to end, only after having verified the keys, you are trusting the server quite a lot.
Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.
How do you accomplish a seamless swap from desktop to a mobile session using end-to-end encryption?
Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.
I share your concerns but the protocol is open. https://core.telegram.org/mtproto All official clients are open source so you can fork them or create a new one from scratch.
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I highly recommend you check out WIRE. Cheers
Wire? I used it for a year with friends and family. I have never in my life experienced a buggier app on Android. My friends and family said the same about it. They seem to focus on bringing new features (like an alien voice FX feature) when they should try to fix the basics first. The worst thing that happened to me was that UI told me I was in a chat with Alice, but I soon realized I was actually chatting with Bob.…
Wire is buggy but generally works. The main problem with it is that metadata is collected by default.
I happened to be reading a comparison of Telegram and Whatsapp this morning [1]. I've never used Whatsapp, is it really this bad or is the reviewer clearly a massive Telegram fanboy/girl? [1] https://info.seibert-media.net/display/Atlassian/Comparison+...
Telegram is superior to Whatsapp from every perspective except for its smaller user base. However, how can you take as unbiased a comparison table that uses adjectives as "Incredibly fast loading times", "UNRIVALED", etc.?
I'd say, except for its security/encryption...
Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.
> end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session) How do you accomplish a seamless swap from desktop to a mobile session using end-to-end encryption?
But seriously how do they pay their bills? (I know VK brothers are super rich) There are bots that relay huge media files It's probably (imo) the fastest & most complete cloud based chat app Everything.. Literally everything you share can be retrived over the cloud & and now calling That must be super expensive infrastructure? No investors no monetization
"If you look at Telegram today, every month it burns over $1 million. It might seem that it’s just going nowhere, but if you want to come up with business model, you need to get to a decent size first. We have 62 million users at the moment, which is enough userbase to attract third-party developers to create products on top of your platform. You can’t do that from day one. It’s difficult."
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-...
I suspect the cost is even higher now.