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Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients.

Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

#13

"Each time you make a Voice Call on Telegram, a neural network learns from your and your device‘s feedback (naturally, it doesn’t have access to the contents of the conversation, it has only technical information such as network speed, ping times, packet loss percentage, etc.). The machine optimizes dozens of parameters based on this input, improving the quality of future calls on the given device and network." What…

Sounds like marketing speech for variable bitrate encoding and/or adjusting compression aggressiveness.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.

I highly recommend you check out WIRE. Cheers

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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I've managed to setup Telegram for most of my (non-technical) family - wife, siblings, mother (she doesn't even have a smart phone and just uses Telegram as a message client on her desktop. It's a very convenient way to share family related pictures). Voice calls are an excellent addition. If these could now also be extended to video calls, I could likely ditch Skype forever.

A client of mine once explicitly asked to communicate via Wire [1] which is pretty similar to Skype but E2E encrypted. It was launched by a Skype co-founder, is easy to use and has a pleasant interface. And it's open source. I can't really tell if the product really does what it's advertising, perhaps someone with more expertise could chime in on that. I got stuck on it and I'm considering ditching Skype altogether f…

I used it for a year with friends and family. I have never in my life experienced a buggier app on Android. My friends and family said the same about it. The seem to focus on bringing new features (like an alien voice FX feature) when they should try to fix the basics first.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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I happened to be reading a comparison of Telegram and Whatsapp this morning [1]. I've never used Whatsapp, is it really this bad or is the reviewer clearly a massive Telegram fanboy/girl? [1] https://info.seibert-media.net/display/Atlassian/Comparison+...

Telegram is superior to Whatsapp from every perspective except for its smaller user base.

However, how can you take as unbiased a comparison table that uses adjectives as "Incredibly fast loading times", "UNRIVALED", etc.?

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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But seriously how do they pay their bills? (I know VK brothers are super rich)

There are bots that relay huge media files

It's probably (imo) the fastest & most complete cloud based chat app

Everything.. Literally everything you share can be retrived over the cloud

& and now calling

That must be super expensive infrastructure? No investors no monetization

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.

I share your concerns but the protocol is open. https://core.telegram.org/mtproto

All official clients are open source so you can fork them or create a new one from scratch.

Re: Voice Calls: Secure, Crystal-Clear, AI-Powered

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post #14

Closed source, not end-to-end encrypted by default, end-to-end only device to device (so I can't swap seamlessly from a desktop to a mobile session). Not even the protocoll is open, so I am bound to their clients. Sadly it was the only nice alternative when the snowden stuff was published. That means those of my peers who made it away from skype/fb/whatsapp are now on telegram.

I highly recommend you check out WIRE. Cheers

Wire? I used it for a year with friends and family. I have never in my life experienced a buggier app on Android. My friends and family said the same about it.

They seem to focus on bringing new features (like an alien voice FX feature) when they should try to fix the basics first.

The worst thing that happened to me was that UI told me I was in a chat with Alice, but I soon realized I was actually chatting with Bob. So much for E2E...

Now we use https://riot.im. I'm kind of surprised a federated solution offers a decent UX and is less buggy.

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