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Re: New male contraceptive may be submitted for Indian approval this year

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Post by sleepychu »

gragas wrote: post #122
sleepychu wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most women would like to avoid getting pregnant by accident, even if they have the option to abort an unwanted pregnancy. This method seems to have no side effect and would reduce the chance with another contraceptive method with 98% success of prevention would make the odds of pregnancy within 1 year negligible (and they only go down over time) The article claims that since the executives of pharma companies are ric…

But what does being white have to do with it?

Maybe the Indian creator feels that this is less of an issue in their culture and conflates culture with race?

Perhaps Western would be a better adjective. I agree with you though, as it stands skin colour seems to have little to do with it.

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Post by rubicon33 »

jwdunne wrote: post #226
WA wrote: post #222

This is big. This is the future of contraception, because it works, it's incredibly cheap, it has (almost?) no side effects. All current solutions are a joke. Hormone-based contraception feels like something from the middle ages. It has serious side effects, it has "harmless" side effects that aren't even related to the pill anymore after years of intake, but still an annoyance (migraine, headaches, yeast infections,…

Bang on. Me and my partner were planning on me getting a vasectomy in a year, when her implant runs out. We've had to bring that forward a year because one side effect is also a symptom of cancer or polyps. After removal, she experienced a huge lift in energy levels and greater stability of mood. I have 2 children so a vasectomy isn't so bad an idea. Even still, it is an invasive and permanent treatment and I'd prefe…

> We've had to bring that forward a year because one side effect is also a symptom of cancer or polyps.

Can you please elaborate on this, or link me something? Without going into too much detail, my partner has an implant, and has been having a cancer scare recently. I would really like to know more about these side effects of the implant, which as you say, are also symptoms of cancer / polyps.

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Post by orthecreedence »

callinyouin wrote: post #158
mehaveaccount wrote: post #140

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What are you going to do with your extra money, sleep, and free time? You don't have to worry about the dating pool when you are married, something you should couple with who you are having sex with. Also the dating pool shrinks with age regardless. On ability to travel: most people eat sleep go to work go to the bathroom and spend time with their families (another reason the dating pool shrinks so significantly). An…

> most people eat sleep go to work go to the bathroom and spend time with their families > I don't know what kind of peace of mind you get by living for your own pleasure > If you're not dedicated to raising others up, either your kids or in some kind of missionary work, then not really sure you can say you're living your life and are doing anything worthwhile Are you unable to look at life through any lens other tha…

Not to mention, some people can't have kids (I know this is not super relevant to a discussion on birth control). Are their lives completely devoid of meaning?

Yes, having kids brings meaning to a lot of people's lives. It's certainly not the only way to lead a fulfilled life, though. In fact, with populations booming everywhere, I'd say it's a good thing that less people want kids.

I know of many people who DO have kids who are constantly bitching about how annoying it is to have kids. They smile through their teeth and say it's the best thing they've ever done, but it's obvious they're reading the script society has handed them while silently thinking "what the hell have I gotten myself into?"

Nothing wrong with not having kids!

Re: New male contraceptive may be submitted for Indian approval this year

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Post by aianus »

thraway2016 wrote: post #129
nailer wrote: post #95

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If your sperm is a meal ticket for life, then condoms might not be enough. And condoms decrease the pleasure of sex for many people.

In the US, the meal ticket typically only lasts 18 years, not a lifetime.

The court doesn't enforce that the woman spends all the child support money. So if you get impregnated by a rich enough man it can certainly be a meal ticket for life.

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Post by cr0sh »

aianus wrote: post #105
jlebrech wrote: post #12

I thought it was going to be a pill, we already have vasectomies.

They will not give you a vasectomy in the US as a young childless man. Something about 'changing your mind later'. It's very patronizing.

Definitely patronizing!

Not only that, but even when a woman is in obvious pain and having issues which only a hysterectomy will solve (ovarian cysts) - if she is under 30 or so, they won't give it to her.

My wife and I made the decision not to have children a long time ago. In the meantime, she's had times where she went into the hospital ER for pain caused by ovarian cysts. She attempted to inquire about a hysterectomy from her doctor after these episode, only to be rebuffed about "what about having children later", etc.

To this day she still has problems, but it has waned greatly now that she's approaching menopause. She'd still like to do it just to stop having a period, but it's no longer the crazy amount of pain that it was.

I found it frustrating for her that as an adult, she was being restricted from making choices about her own body to improve her health and quality of life.

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Post by darklajid »

jwdunne wrote: post #226
WA wrote: post #222

This is big. This is the future of contraception, because it works, it's incredibly cheap, it has (almost?) no side effects. All current solutions are a joke. Hormone-based contraception feels like something from the middle ages. It has serious side effects, it has "harmless" side effects that aren't even related to the pill anymore after years of intake, but still an annoyance (migraine, headaches, yeast infections,…

Bang on. Me and my partner were planning on me getting a vasectomy in a year, when her implant runs out. We've had to bring that forward a year because one side effect is also a symptom of cancer or polyps. After removal, she experienced a huge lift in energy levels and greater stability of mood. I have 2 children so a vasectomy isn't so bad an idea. Even still, it is an invasive and permanent treatment and I'd prefe…

As a father of two: Said procedure is incredibly harm- and painless.

I understand the fear, but I've seen people (even here) spread a lot of FUD about it. If you prefer something else: Sure! If you're merely uneasy about the process: Don't be, it's so common, fast and easy.

Re: New male contraceptive may be submitted for Indian approval this year

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Post by orthecreedence »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #195
creepydata wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop your patronizing bullshit! I have taken the pill for years I feel like I am ruining my body. I have side effects. I switched brands, I switched to the shot (that was much worse), every one is awful. I put up with it because I won't risk unwanted pregnancy. It's the less of two very evil evils. You're also ignoring the large population of women who the pill is contraindicated for. It also requires regular doctor…

Being wrong about side effects is not the same as being patronizing.

His tone is very "Male contraceptive is ridiculous because it already works just fine for women! Here's some shitty anecdotal evidence to support my claim!"

I'd classify that as patronizing, and as a male, I had the same reaction to his comment as the responder...I've known lots of women, partners included, who avoided the pill because of its horrible side effects.

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Post by smizell »

xutopia wrote: post #181
smizell wrote: post #80

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Just to add, I don't want my comments to scare any males considering the option. If you are at the time in life to stop having children, and you have no condition preventing the procedure, it's really the best option and will more than likely not have any issues. It sometimes doesn't even require pain medication.

I can't help but feel you are downplaying the procedure by saying that it sometimes doesn't require pain medication. In the clinic I went to they hand you a subscription for pain medication as routine and give you an ice pack to put on your scrotum. I was happy to have taken the pain meds before the anesthetics wore off I'll tell you!

Just to note, I'm seven days post-op on this procedure :) And while I did not take any meds, I was happy to be sitting in bed with an ice pack watching March Madness. So there was definitely discomfort.

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Post by glibgil »

nvahalik wrote: post #89
duopixel wrote: post #37

Should I have children, I see myself walking my teenage son to the clinic to get this done. A rite of passage of sorts. It is difficult to understate the importance of bringing only wanted children into this world, and that both parents agree on it. The cultural importance of this invention will be revealed in time, I hope.

Indeed, the cultural "importance" will be revealed in time. However, I fear not in the way you intend. There used to be a time when we as a society valued things like self-control, discipline, and tradition. No more. What you are alluding to here is a world where we are ruled by our emotions and our basest desires without the fear or potential for having to deal with our actions. To divorce sex from children is to mi…

> There used to be a time when we as a society valued things like self-control, discipline, and tradition

No, no there has never been a time. People in the past were just big liars. People have always done whatever they want. The only difference today is that many people have the option of being honest about it

Re: New male contraceptive may be submitted for Indian approval this year

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Post by LanceH »

aianus wrote: post #102
Ntrails wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it inconceivable that you'd want to encourage high risk of stds by advocating something that only prevents pregnancy

Children are worse than the worst STD. You can live a pretty normal life with HIV, Syphilis, herpes, etc.

You can't live a normal life without conception.
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