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New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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I think MTA should also consider putting a barrier on the edge of the platform. So that we won't get dozens of people being pushed off to the rails.

Do you have a source for how often this happens? I can't find anything specifically about subway pushers in NYC. As far as I can tell, it's a very rare occurrence.

That being said, I see fairly high numbers of deaths in general, mainly attributed to suicides and alcohol/drug use.

How would this barrier work? Would it withdraw once the train pulled up or something?

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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> only 92 of the system’s 425 stations accessible > On average, 25 elevators a day stop working Do 27% of elevators really break down on a _daily_ basis? That is abysmal if accurate.

Most stations have more than one elevator, but that's still terrible

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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post #3

I think MTA should also consider putting a barrier on the edge of the platform. So that we won't get dozens of people being pushed off to the rails.

Do you have a source for how often this happens? I can't find anything specifically about subway pushers in NYC. As far as I can tell, it's a very rare occurrence. That being said, I see fairly high numbers of deaths in general, mainly attributed to suicides and alcohol/drug use. How would this barrier work? Would it withdraw once the train pulled up or something?

There are gaps or doors that line up with the train doors when the subway stops

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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post #3

I think MTA should also consider putting a barrier on the edge of the platform. So that we won't get dozens of people being pushed off to the rails.

Do you have a source for how often this happens? I can't find anything specifically about subway pushers in NYC. As far as I can tell, it's a very rare occurrence. That being said, I see fairly high numbers of deaths in general, mainly attributed to suicides and alcohol/drug use. How would this barrier work? Would it withdraw once the train pulled up or something?

Something like this maybe? http://philly.curbed.com/archives/2014/10/23/korean-company-...

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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post #3

I think MTA should also consider putting a barrier on the edge of the platform. So that we won't get dozens of people being pushed off to the rails.

Do you have a source for how often this happens? I can't find anything specifically about subway pushers in NYC. As far as I can tell, it's a very rare occurrence. That being said, I see fairly high numbers of deaths in general, mainly attributed to suicides and alcohol/drug use. How would this barrier work? Would it withdraw once the train pulled up or something?

They seemed common in Japan when I visited:

https://alicegordenker.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/subway-safet...

(not my article)

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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> only 92 of the system’s 425 stations accessible > On average, 25 elevators a day stop working Do 27% of elevators really break down on a _daily_ basis? That is abysmal if accurate.

Most stations have more than one elevator, but that's still terrible

Most stations have exactly 0 elevators.

Re: New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair

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post #3

I think MTA should also consider putting a barrier on the edge of the platform. So that we won't get dozens of people being pushed off to the rails.

Do you have a source for how often this happens? I can't find anything specifically about subway pushers in NYC. As far as I can tell, it's a very rare occurrence. That being said, I see fairly high numbers of deaths in general, mainly attributed to suicides and alcohol/drug use. How would this barrier work? Would it withdraw once the train pulled up or something?

There are numerous examples on the Tokyo Metro/Toei. The cheaper ones go up to about chest height and the more expensive ones completely block off the tracks by going up to the ceiling.

They also have the added benefit of showing people where to line up and make it harder for someone to cause the train to be late by rushing/holding the door

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