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Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by mgkimsal »

ada1981 wrote: post #262
mgkimsal wrote: post #250

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> The process is $4k-$5k but with financing comes down to about the same you spend on glasses or contacts annually. My eyes aren't perfect, but I've spent about $500 on glasses in 10 years. How much do others spend? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around financing $5k for eyes (not saying it bad, just not close to my experience).

I was spending a few hundred a year on exams, contacts and backup glasses. Outside of that, having the equivalent of HD vision is worth every penny.

interesting. i guess it's certainly possible, thinking about it, to spend that much. I may just be lucky (so far) that I've not needed that much.

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Post by pkolaczk »

"But we couldn’t afford to fight the case" I think there must be something very wrong with the court system in USA. This is the one who claims their patents have been infringed that should prove at the court and pay the price for filing the lawsuit, including the cost of the experts hired by the court. Why are the costs of defense so high in this case?

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by pkolaczk »

fgonzag wrote: post #87
hackuser wrote: post #42

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What happens if your small business sues Google? Right or wrong, you are betting the business on that case. If you lose, Google's legal costs will consume your entire business. That said, it's hard for your small business to sue Google anyway.

I've always had an idea that whoever loses a civil suit pays the other party the lower of the legal costs of both parties. So if small company A fights big company B, small company A would only have to pay twice it's legal costs, even if megacorp decides to spend smallcorp's yearly sales in the defense. If megacorp sues a small company, then small company can decide to fight it if they think they have a case and have…

Yes, your idea is even better than what we have in Poland. In Poland we basically have "loser pays" but the legal costs returned by the loser are limited by law and typically depend on the type of the case and the amount of money requested in the lawsuit. These limits are lower than the typical cost of good legal companies. Therefore even if a big company with expensive lawyers wins, it will not get back all of its legal costs.

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Post by pkolaczk »

quadrangle wrote: post #251
bmcusick wrote: post #13

American courts should have a "Loser pays" rule, and stricter standards for determining what is a frivolous lawsuit warranting additional penalties for the filer. American jurisprudence has always favored making sure "everyone gets their day in Court" to the point where trolls and professional litigants are ruining things.

Besides what others said, "loser pays" gives incentive to increase total legal costs where people who think they have a strong case where the other will pay could spend absurdly on the suit. And it reinforces sunk cost too. Once you're into the case, you better do everything it takes to win at all costs (since you won't face the burden of any of those costs if you do win).

That's why there should be a limit on the costs that are returned by the loser, based on the average estimation. In Poland there is no point in spending absurdly, because you won't get anything over the limit back, regardless of who wins.

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Post by wcummings »

electrum wrote: post #94
yourapostasy wrote: post #31

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WRT prices of contact lenses, I use an ultrasonic contact lens cleaner with plain saline (Ringer's will also work if that is cheaper in your area), then storing the contact lenses in my lens solution to disinfect. Far better comfort profile, for far longer, than I ever obtained following the manufacturer instructions of 20 seconds rubbing on each side, and 5 seconds rinsing on each side. The saline is half as much as…

Get LASIK. Having perfect eyesight and not having to deal with contacts or glasses is worth every penny.

Meh, glasses are easy and work fine if you're not into sports or something, I don't see any reason to get surgery.

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Post by yourapostasy »

adav wrote: post #140
yourapostasy wrote: post #121

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Can't yet, much as I'd like. :-( I require torics, and for some reason the many dailies we tried wouldn't stay in their "up" orientation. My optometrist said that in a year or two, he thinks some of the newer dailies in the development pipeline might address my experience, and we'll try dailies again at that time. Has something to do with the weighting of the lenses, I gathered from overhearing his conversation with…

I use toric dailies and it's the blinking that aligns the orientation. Once the angle is correct after blinking, the lenses then don't seem to rotate further. (I use '1-day Acuvue Moist for Astigmatism')

Clarification: even sequential blinking did not realign the lenses we tried, for some odd reason. Dailies would be really awesome to be able to wear, because I only wear contacts for water sports and when dressing up, so I end up throwing out the 30-day lenses after only a handful of uses. Thanks for pointing me towards what you use, I'll ask my guy to try them on me if he hasn't already when I go in for my annual.

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Post by yourapostasy »

blincoln wrote: post #192
yourapostasy wrote: post #121

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Can't yet, much as I'd like. :-( I require torics, and for some reason the many dailies we tried wouldn't stay in their "up" orientation. My optometrist said that in a year or two, he thinks some of the newer dailies in the development pipeline might address my experience, and we'll try dailies again at that time. Has something to do with the weighting of the lenses, I gathered from overhearing his conversation with…

Did you try Biofinity toric lenses? That's what I've been using for several years after I started having that exact problem.

Thanks for the pointer, I'll ask my guy to try them on me at my next annual, if he hasn't tried that brand already.

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Post by yourapostasy »

qqg3 wrote: post #134
yourapostasy wrote: post #121

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Can't yet, much as I'd like. :-( I require torics, and for some reason the many dailies we tried wouldn't stay in their "up" orientation. My optometrist said that in a year or two, he thinks some of the newer dailies in the development pipeline might address my experience, and we'll try dailies again at that time. Has something to do with the weighting of the lenses, I gathered from overhearing his conversation with…

Cooper Vision do some great dailies that are torics, I've been using them for years.

Another Cooper Vision recommendation, I'll really have to check them out, thanks!

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Post by munchbunny »

aluminussoma wrote: post #11

Costco sued J&J Vision Care a few years ago over anti-consumer behavior in the contact lenses industry (I characterize it as anti-consumer. The Vision Care industry characterizes it as pro-consumer). They dropped the lawsuit in 2016, probably because Johnson and Johnson discontinued the practice: https://www.law360.com/articles/800034/costco-drops-antitrus... Costco did support a different lawsuit by state of Utah ag…

While we're on the subject, I'm glad Costco does this.

I was just shopping for new eyeglasses this week, and the difference between going to an in-network shop and going to Costco (out of network) is beyond insane. For something that will cost me under $100 for both frames and lenses after reimbursement from Costco, I estimated that I would have paid almost $300 out of pocket after in-network coverage.

Costco might not do enough volume to drive market cost down, but I certainly appreciate that they provide a sane alternative to crazy markups on eyeglasses in stores.

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Post by [deleted] »

ada1981 wrote: post #155
eps wrote: post #96

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A risk of ending up with halos is not worth it.

If you get LASEK vs. LASIK halos aren't a problem. I had LASEK done perhaps 8 years ago, and my eyes went from 20/400 to 20/15 overnight. The entire procedure was incredible including an HD prescription profile generated by scanning your entire eye. The process is $4k-$5k but with financing comes down to about the same you spend on glasses or contacts annually. No risk of halos as there is no "flap" cut like with LAS…

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