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Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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Is it me or unions on Germany are a species of their own kind? I mean I'm expected the union to do strikes to raise salaries, protect laziness and unproductive workers, counter automation and firing of current workers...

Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting down-voted over this.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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post #2

Is it me or unions on Germany are a species of their own kind? I mean I'm expected the union to do strikes to raise salaries, protect laziness and unproductive workers, counter automation and firing of current workers... Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting down-voted over this.

German unions are entirely different because in German companies 50% of the board are elected by employees (and the other 50% by the investors).

This obviously changes power dynamics quite a bit.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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Is it me or unions on Germany are a species of their own kind? I mean I'm expected the union to do strikes to raise salaries, protect laziness and unproductive workers, counter automation and firing of current workers... Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting down-voted over this.

Someone downvoted this anti-union sentiment but I think the real question addresses the balance of interests of the workers (continued jobs) versus the company (profitability).

In fact, in modern times, according to Greenspan, there is also a third party: the corporate leadership's interest is at odds with both the employees and the sharedholders, forming a triangle of interest. Perhaps this third only applies to US public corps.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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post #2

Is it me or unions on Germany are a species of their own kind? I mean I'm expected the union to do strikes to raise salaries, protect laziness and unproductive workers, counter automation and firing of current workers... Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting down-voted over this.

Many people and organizations with a lot of power have spent a lot of time and money giving you that impression. Unions have done a great deal of good worldwide, but no 'it's Henry Ford that's responsible for the 40 hour week' etc.

PS: Remember, the best way to keep power long term is to convince everyone else to hand it to you.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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post #2

Is it me or unions on Germany are a species of their own kind? I mean I'm expected the union to do strikes to raise salaries, protect laziness and unproductive workers, counter automation and firing of current workers... Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting down-voted over this.

The German model of trades unionism is built on co-operation between union and management; the history runs deep. One consequence is that workers are screwed over less. Another consequence is that industrial action is rarely necessary.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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The Unions in Germany are considered to be very strong.

This works well in companies where managers don't have a lot of imagination and who's first reaction is to fire staff when the going gets tough.

For example VW wanted to cut 3000 workers. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-redundancies-id...

After talks with the Union they rescinded somewhat and now the losses will be through attrition. i.e. wait for people to retire or leave.

It doesn't surprise me that Audi want to keep what may be seen as a growing product in Germany.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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As a former Audi owner, I wonder if the "audi service position" will be applicable to their electric cars. Tangental I know, but I would be curious to know if they will make their cars easier/cheaper to service. I never really had much trouble with my A4, but maintenance costs upwards of 1k per 6 months(I was driving a lot of miles at the time) turned me off to the ownership experience.

Re: Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant

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As a former Audi owner, I wonder if the "audi service position" will be applicable to their electric cars. Tangental I know, but I would be curious to know if they will make their cars easier/cheaper to service. I never really had much trouble with my A4, but maintenance costs upwards of 1k per 6 months(I was driving a lot of miles at the time) turned me off to the ownership experience.

What do you drive now if you don't mind me asking? Current Audi owner here. Similar experience, but I don't mind.
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