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Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by arethuza » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:31 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #14

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

I'm not British but I live in the UK - I have based my entire life here, family, house, job, car, everything - and a year ago, I would have never considered leaving, this is my home. But right now, I'm weighting my options. I'm a huge believer in the European Union, so why would I want to live in a country that's not in it? And increasingly, I think the answer is - I wouldn't. So although I haven't started packing ye…

I have had the pleasure over the last few years or working in the UK with so many excellent people from elsewhere in the EU - from Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, Portugal to name a few.

It really upsets me that the inclusive welcoming culture that we used to have (not to mention the economic benefits) is being destroyed.

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by ForRealsies » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:31 PM UTC

ealexhudson wrote: post #3

I'm a big believer in not having assumptions and testing things with actual experiments. This is one experiment I'd rather not be participating in, though. It's difficult to see very much positive about this move; certainly there will be some benefits, but I expect greatly outweighed by the negatives (which will include higher prices, lower employment and probably lower standards for UK workers - the EU has consisten…

The EU is a novelty in human history. The desire for independence, for better or worse, is human nature.

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by topbanana » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:32 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #14

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

I'm not British but I live in the UK - I have based my entire life here, family, house, job, car, everything - and a year ago, I would have never considered leaving, this is my home. But right now, I'm weighting my options. I'm a huge believer in the European Union, so why would I want to live in a country that's not in it? And increasingly, I think the answer is - I wouldn't. So although I haven't started packing ye…

Getting a visa isn't so onerous is it? Compared with the hassle of upping your roots and moving your family?

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by lifty » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:32 PM UTC

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

AFAIK incorporating in Netherlands is very cheap. You need 1 euro starting capital and the notary fee, which is a few hundred euros. Are you referring to the initial incorporation costs or the ongoing tax burden?

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by fredley » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:32 PM UTC

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #23

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

> Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? Campaigning for the Liberal Democrats.

If only there was a snowball's chance in hell of this achieving something. (disclosure: party member)

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by fao_ » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:32 PM UTC

ForRealsies wrote: post #32

ealexhudson wrote: post #3

I'm a big believer in not having assumptions and testing things with actual experiments. This is one experiment I'd rather not be participating in, though. It's difficult to see very much positive about this move; certainly there will be some benefits, but I expect greatly outweighed by the negatives (which will include higher prices, lower employment and probably lower standards for UK workers - the EU has consisten…

The EU is a novelty in human history. The desire for independence, for better or worse, is human nature.

I guess only old Welsh people have "human nature" then...

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by dijit » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 PM UTC

nickpeterson wrote: post #28

dijit wrote: post #4

I'm British but live in the EU. I've been watching this from the outside and it makes me so very sad and despondent. Forgetting any inconvenience on my part (of which there are very few -I likely have access to an EU passport.). It's fucking stupid. No ifs, no buts, no apologies and respecting of alternate opinions. Just fucking stupid. Every single reason for leaving (other than "leave so the EU can get on without U…

Look at the bright side, I live in the US where our president and his staff are quite literally morons.

I do not envy the USA right now either. Can we agree we're both being shafted from above?

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by PaulRobinson » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 PM UTC

ealexhudson wrote: post #9

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

I'm formally getting EU citizenship (which I'm lucky enough to be entitled to as a citizen of Ireland). There is going to be increased demand for this, particularly as people realise that there is going to be a hard border (which seems inevitable, given the statements on freedom of movement). I won't actually move, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of personal and small businesses move in exactly the way you're su…

The letter specifically calls for ensuring there is no hard border.

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by antihero » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 PM UTC

Two9A wrote: post #5

Are British HN'ers taking any mitigating steps due to this whole situation? I'm currently in the process of incorporating in the Netherlands, and it turns out setting up a Ltd is a lot more expensive over there than in the UK. I just don't feel that the UK will make good use of my tax receipts any more, so I'm almost obligated to take my work elsewhere.

To be honest I'm just staring blankly into space and wondering if us Londoners can secede from the rest of the UK somehow.

Re: UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU

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Post by adnam » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 PM UTC

mmjaa wrote: post #22

adnam wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We had plenty of conflict while part of the EU: the Falklands, Iraq, the IRA, Bosnia for example. It wasn't nationalism which caused conflicts in Europe, it was a lack of democracy.

Falklands happened "because of the EU"? Thats news to me. I thought it happened because the UK needs the oil reserves to prop up its broken economy.

Except I didn't say that the Falklands happened because of the EU, did I? It happened because Argentina invaded British sovereign territory, and the British defended it. Interestingly, not a single other EU country aided the UK.