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Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by [deleted] »

Timmy_C wrote: post #17
blhack wrote: post #13

Does apple not see how this will end up badly for them? Apple, you're scaring off talented developers; soon the only people who will be left are people who can afford to have gobs and gobs of apps rejected.

I don't think these types of stories are scaring off anybody since we've been reading about App Store rejections for the last two years and it seems that companies and developers continue to want to make apps for iPad/iPod/iPhone. It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines. Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively. They made an app that was too much like a des…

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Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by blhack »

Timmy_C wrote: post #17
blhack wrote: post #13

Does apple not see how this will end up badly for them? Apple, you're scaring off talented developers; soon the only people who will be left are people who can afford to have gobs and gobs of apps rejected.

I don't think these types of stories are scaring off anybody since we've been reading about App Store rejections for the last two years and it seems that companies and developers continue to want to make apps for iPad/iPod/iPhone. It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines. Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively. They made an app that was too much like a des…

>They made an app that was too much like a desktop and got rejected. That seems entirely reasonable.

You're not serious, are you. If so, :(.

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by pavlov »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #12

I don't see how I can responsibly spend effort on developing an iPad app. The "approval" process is chaotic and arbitrary - witness intelligent cooperative people having their whole business shot down seemingly at random. I will develop for other platforms - the market leader Android for instance - which operate on the oldfashioned principle of "free market".

Technically, Symbian is still the market leader by a comfortable margin.

(The development options are fairly confusing though. For C/C++ development, the only Symbian dev avenue worth considering nowadays is "Nokia Qt SDK", which is surprisingly nice. Java seems to be essentially deprecated, but higher-level options like Python and JavaScript through Web Runtime are available.)

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by alex_c »

Timmy_C wrote: post #17
blhack wrote: post #13

Does apple not see how this will end up badly for them? Apple, you're scaring off talented developers; soon the only people who will be left are people who can afford to have gobs and gobs of apps rejected.

I don't think these types of stories are scaring off anybody since we've been reading about App Store rejections for the last two years and it seems that companies and developers continue to want to make apps for iPad/iPod/iPhone. It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines. Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively. They made an app that was too much like a des…

Trying hard not to downvote just because I disagree so strongly, I don't even know if it's possible to find some common ground for discussion.

It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines.

I'm getting really sick of that defense for Apple. How exactly do you logically go from "Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively" to "Thou shalt not make a cool picture frame app"?

Yes, it's entirely the app developers' fault, and Apple can never be mistaken. The allmighty App Store Guidelines CLEARLY spell out for developers what they can and cannot do. They are immutable, all-encompassing, never vague, and impossible to misinterpret. If only developers would READ, we would never see any of these stories.

Argh.

(Have I just been trolled? On HN?)

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by stcredzero »

steveklabnik wrote: post #19
stcredzero wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mindshare is The foundation. Apple squanders it. Google gets this part right.

There are lots of complaints about how Android version incompatibilities makes it a pain for developers. The iPhone is a joy to program for, but the app store policy sucks. Android is a bitch to program for, but the app story policy is great. I'd say they're about neck and neck.

iPhone - Has greed on it's side, good environment, not too open, squanders mindshare

Android - Not the 1st choice of the greedy, too many compatibility issues, very open, makes the right moves for mindshare.

By this analysis, Android seems to be on a winning trajectory in the long run.

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by tvon »

stcredzero wrote: post #14
tvon wrote: post #11

It seems to me that a widget app, if popular, would become a new target for 3rd party applications, and I can't see why Apple would want that.

Doesn't seem like a widget app to me. More like a picture frame with lots of features. Where is there a 3rd party widget feature?

True, I thought it had features similar to the Dashboard app, but apparently not.

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by gte910h »

blhack wrote: post #13

Does apple not see how this will end up badly for them? Apple, you're scaring off talented developers; soon the only people who will be left are people who can afford to have gobs and gobs of apps rejected.

Honestly, I'd love too see android be a viable competitor, but until it is, Apple is going to continue reigning.

Android is still ultrafragmented, and none of the tablets are out yet (nor will necessarily be that good when they come).

Half the iPad development I'm seeing looked for is for B2B apps, not consumer apps.

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by chmike »

blhack wrote: post #13

Does apple not see how this will end up badly for them? Apple, you're scaring off talented developers; soon the only people who will be left are people who can afford to have gobs and gobs of apps rejected.

The most amazing is that developpers have to pay to develop for Apple. I won't.

Re: Apple: Make a desktop, your iPad app is toast

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Post by Timmy_C »

alex_c wrote: post #24
Timmy_C wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think these types of stories are scaring off anybody since we've been reading about App Store rejections for the last two years and it seems that companies and developers continue to want to make apps for iPad/iPod/iPhone. It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines. Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively. They made an app that was too much like a des…

Trying hard not to downvote just because I disagree so strongly, I don't even know if it's possible to find some common ground for discussion. It sounds to me like these developers didn't read the app store guidelines. I'm getting really sick of that defense for Apple. How exactly do you logically go from "Don't make apps that do what Apple devices can already do natively" to "Thou shalt not make a cool picture frame…

I'll concede that there may be a jump in logic. And it is upsetting that a developer that plays by the rules gets denied for some unforeseeable reason. But I am tired of reading the same Apple is screwing the developers story. Why so much negativity in this thread?
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