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Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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Re: Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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I've had a casual curiosity on why these billionaires like Musk who seem to care about world wide problems such as AI aren't working to solve the imminent issues with global warming. I'm not talking about reducing fossil fuels, but perhaps coming up with solutions with their resources that addresses a world that isn't so habitable by life in the future. I don't know enough about global warming to know why this might…

Logistics. Can the problem be solved with engineering and invention alone, or do they need to get governments and political movements involved in order to accomplish anything? Why would anyone with any real ability or drive want to bother with that shit?

It's empirically easier to start an orbital rocket company than to convince hundreds of millions of people to do things they don't want to.

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Am I the only one surprised (and concerned) by how many ventures Musk start at the same time?

I am too. He's been successful so far, but it seems to me that at some point, he will be overextending himself, and will start to run into more failures. As a Tesla shareholder, I wish he would focus on making sure that company is successful. Just Tesla, with its car, power, and battery divisions, is a huge project for one person to manage.

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Am I the only one surprised (and concerned) by how many ventures Musk start at the same time?

I am too. He's been successful so far, but it seems to me that at some point, he will be overextending himself, and will start to run into more failures. As a Tesla shareholder, I wish he would focus on making sure that company is successful. Just Tesla, with its car, power, and battery divisions, is a huge project for one person to manage.

Well, if the Neuralink works then it will probably make everything else easier.

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Have fun with that. Cochleas are tricky enough!

Pretty much what they said about reusable rockets and electric cars.

Eh, it's worth understanding the scale and scope of the problem. I've been thinking about this a lot, recently.

The human brain has on the order of 1e11 neurons. The galaxy has on the order of 1e11 stars.

Now, would we confidently predict that we could "solve" the galaxy in less than 100 to 500 years, say? And yet we make very, very aggressive estimates of how quickly we might unravel the secrets of the brain.

Biology is just monstrously, monstrously complex!

The hope is that it may actually be easier to build a useful thinking machine than to fully reverse-engineer the brain.

If we can really build a neural lace in the sense that Iain Banks originated the term, then we've probably also solved cancer and the rest of biology. Imagine the fine-grained control you'd need to manufacture a molecular-scale structure in-situ.

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I don't want to compete with AI. I want AI to create efficiency and wealth so I can relax and have a leisure lifestyle. This shows that work-a-holic CEO culture is only about margins and gains and not improving lifestyle and quality of life. Automation should be improving our lives not adding anxiety to compete with it, which we will ultimately lose. We're probably in for another 1880's labor movement as automation k…

Not everyone wants to be human for ever, some people take joy in their work and want to continue doing it and contributing in a meaningful way, etc, etc. Nothing to do with being a workaholic or the rest. I hate to say it, but 'leisure' gets boring awfully quickly.

> 'leisure' gets boring awfully quickly

Not for me, as long as I get to keep all the toys in my garage. The list of projects I want to complete is probably an order of magnitude too big to finish in one lifetime as long as I have a full time job.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's founded tesla and SolarCity with that objective in mind and almost went bankrupt in the process...

My point was more around addressing global warming from the perspective of mitigation rather than prevention. There seems to be a lot of reports that indicate our opportunity for preventing global warming has passed or will soon pass[0][1][2]. So if that's the case, it seems like it would be pretty important to work on solutions to survive the effects of global warming instead. 0. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s…

I've been seeing studies since the release of the Inconvenient Truth claiming that the point of no return has been reached.

I don't doubt climate change, but I'm very skeptical of studies positing a slippery slope of catastrophic proportions. It's true we don't know the cascading effects of increased CO2 and methane emissions, but that doesn't mean it the unknown is apocalyptic.

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There's a "non-invasive" brain-computer interface on the market. It's a little less ambitious; targeted towards people who practice meditation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_(headband)

This just EEG which has been around forever. I wouldn't call that a brain-computer interface

Re: Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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There's a "non-invasive" brain-computer interface on the market. It's a little less ambitious; targeted towards people who practice meditation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_(headband)

This just EEG which has been around forever. I wouldn't call that a brain-computer interface
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