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Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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Re: Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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Elon Musk's "bold" ventures are the only things that excite me. Meaning, whenever I hear of a supposed "big idea" that's right around the corner (cough, cough - Magic Leap), I basically dismiss it. Except when it has to do with Elon Musk.

He is the first to admit that his plans will probably fail, but he actually has an incredible track record over 10+ years.

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The [Black Mirror][1] (British science fiction television anthology series created by Charlie Brooker) has a few episodes dealing with AI and brain-machine interfaces. It is very interesting to watch some of the emotional and social implications this kind of technology will bring. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror

Upvoted because even though that show makes me sick it does explain very important technological / cultural issues in a very, uh, visceral way.

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The [Black Mirror][1] (British science fiction television anthology series created by Charlie Brooker) has a few episodes dealing with AI and brain-machine interfaces. It is very interesting to watch some of the emotional and social implications this kind of technology will bring. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror

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Wonder if we'll ever see "Humans as AI-ASICs" type services..? (I mean, apart from the movie "the Matrix".)

Bizarrely, humans weren't used for computation in the Matrix. They were batteries...somehow.

IIRC it started out as computation, but was changed to batteries because they thought cluster computing was too hard to explain in a movie script.

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If I remember correctly, there are needle-like implants with around a thousand contacts and it is quite a difficult task to get the signals out of the brain. Either you have the ADCs directly at the contacts, which means you can't get your density of contacts up, or you have the ADCs outside which will give you a nightmare of wiring. In either case the technology to actually have an interface read out individual neur…

You are thinking of Ted Berger's work at USC, among MANY other researchers' efforts. Here is a link to the class: https://classes.usc.edu/term-20161/course/bme-552/

Also, the main issue with their work is glia' scarring inside the central nervous system; the body ensures the implants are time limited.

Re: Elon Musk’s Neuralink wants to boost the brain to keep up with AI

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If I remember correctly, there are needle-like implants with around a thousand contacts and it is quite a difficult task to get the signals out of the brain. Either you have the ADCs directly at the contacts, which means you can't get your density of contacts up, or you have the ADCs outside which will give you a nightmare of wiring. In either case the technology to actually have an interface read out individual neur…

If anything you're underselling the existing hurdles. It was once thought that the brain was immunoprivileged, but now it's known to have its own immune system. As a result implants are prone to having scar tissue form around them, and after some years it starts to inhibit their ability to perform.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much what they said about reusable rockets and electric cars.

They said that about electric cars? They had electric buses before they had petrol ones. In most ways electric is actually simpler. We've just been waiting for the batteries, and Tesla didn't do anything revolutionary there. Tesla saw the batteries were finally there and found a way to hype, market and sell electric cars successfully. That's praiseworthy. The self-driving stuff and over-the-air software updates are a…

iirc some of the first cars ran on vegetable oil, which is now seen as quite progressive.

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I've had a casual curiosity on why these billionaires like Musk who seem to care about world wide problems such as AI aren't working to solve the imminent issues with global warming. I'm not talking about reducing fossil fuels, but perhaps coming up with solutions with their resources that addresses a world that isn't so habitable by life in the future. I don't know enough about global warming to know why this might…

Because the solutions to these problems are unconscionable to tech nerds, whose entire life style is dependent on the happy belly of Western resource and energy profligacy. The solutions involve powerdown, a rollback of technological progress and refocus on survival and sustainability at a global scale, and quite possibly a significant reduction of the human population.
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