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Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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Get everyone focused on thinking about the team's mission, role, and what it takes to get the job done. Drill that into everyone's head and stick to it. Let everything else go. A mentor once told me that business fundamentally revolves around making money, saving money, saving time, and making customers happier. I like thinking about work that way, as it has nothing to do with religion, sex, gender, age, height, phas…

I mean these Silicon Valley firms keep getting caught in blatant sexual harassment cases. I think a lot of them need, like, basic remedial education.

The irony is that these are "progressive" companies.

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

#93

Get everyone focused on thinking about the team's mission, role, and what it takes to get the job done. Drill that into everyone's head and stick to it. Let everything else go. A mentor once told me that business fundamentally revolves around making money, saving money, saving time, and making customers happier. I like thinking about work that way, as it has nothing to do with religion, sex, gender, age, height, phas…

I think this thinking is discouraging. Bot to men but even more to women and it might be the reason why there are so few women in STEM fields. I think generally work places should be much more well rounded. We spend a considerable amount of time there, so why not allow it to be a place where we expand our lives instead of a place where we only "make money, save money, save time, and make customers happier"?

Many of us don't want it to be anything more than that. That's what the rest of our life is for.

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

#94

Get everyone focused on thinking about the team's mission, role, and what it takes to get the job done. Drill that into everyone's head and stick to it. Let everything else go. A mentor once told me that business fundamentally revolves around making money, saving money, saving time, and making customers happier. I like thinking about work that way, as it has nothing to do with religion, sex, gender, age, height, phas…

So put your head down and ignore the fact that women make up a small portion of people in STEM fields and are leaving those jobs once they get them?

That's not a solution, it's what most places are already doing.

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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1) Discourage your work 'culture' from being built around aggressive tech code reviews/debates/arguments/chat where young males love to beat their chest 2) Some flexibility on hours/location when children come. Women have a harder 'stop' than men do on their child bearing age, which frequently coincides with moving into senior development roles.

> 1) Discourage your work 'culture' from being built around aggressive tech code reviews/debates/arguments/chat where young males love to beat their chest

Frankly this is something I'd welcome too.

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen If you feel like being controversial, at least do everyone the courtesy of responding to the most obvious counter arguments ahead of time. We all know what they are, and no one wants to rehash the same stuff over and over, unless we're going to hear something new.

Oh, sorry to have offended you, I guess you run HackerNews and make all of the rules here. /sarc I see the White Knights have already started the down-voting process.

Posting inflammatory or snarky comments on divisive topics ends up turning threads into flamewars. That's effectively trolling even if you don't intend it to be, so please don't comment this way on HN.

Comments should become more civil and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Then we avoid the downward spiral into internet hell.

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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It's not like the industry figured out how to retain men to begin with.

Almost every tech company I've been in, I've seen people of both genders move in and out constantly.

Programmers have been complaining about management since forever.

Is there any evidence that women in particular are facing different issues from men when it comes to job satisfaction?

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

#98

is there a plan for Ask a Male Engineer series?

This breaks the HN guideline against going full flamewar with nothing new to say.

The vector here is predictable and therefore uninteresting; most of us have been through it a zillion times and live in hope of being spared another. Therefore, please just don't.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13968549 and marked it off-topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point number 1 is ridiculous and sexist. Oh yeah let's ship code that hasn't been reviewed because the young males in our company will act like chimpanzees, and those pesky technical debates let's scratch those too. Let's just use whatever piece of technology is trending today on HN

No one's saying we shouldn't have code reviews or technical debates, just that we need to avoid being overly aggressive. A lot of young males (including myself previously, and sometimes currently) can be very aggressive in presenting their views. This disenfranchises less outspoken people in our teams, particularly woman who generally can't be as aggressive without negative social ramifications.

"A lot of young males (including myself previously, and sometimes currently) can be very aggressive in presenting their views."

This is a very sexist statement, do you have any evidence for that other than your anecdotical experiences?

Re: Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Technical Women?

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post #20

1) Discourage your work 'culture' from being built around aggressive tech code reviews/debates/arguments/chat where young males love to beat their chest 2) Some flexibility on hours/location when children come. Women have a harder 'stop' than men do on their child bearing age, which frequently coincides with moving into senior development roles.

> 1) Discourage your work 'culture' from being built around aggressive tech code reviews/debates/arguments/chat where young males love to beat their chest I'm sure whatever you'd like to replace these processes could be described in equally sweeping sexist terms going the opposite direction, you know.

Seems difficult given how few tech companies are female-dominated, actually.
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