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You could examine everything I have ever, ever written and you will never find me paying someone to hold up a sign reading "Death to Jews".
No, but I could now quote you in the news saying you wrote "Death to Jews" online. And that is pretty much what all of this is about.
Everything in this article about a capricious Youtube is true. Everything in this article about the underappreciated difficulty of producing this content is true. I produced a lot of media, but I easily put 5x hours into it (it doesn't help I play simulation and builder games). Everything about how expensive and difficult that job is is true.
And it's also true that the communities of Youtube and their related satellites (a lot of fandom on Tumblr, SA's leftovers, 4chan, Twitter, even obscure stuff like GaiaOnline) are... They're hateful. People will find a reason to hate you. Your fans will pick fights in your name. You'll frequently get criticism from both sides of an issue, and they're not always as cut-and-dry as the PewDiePie Nazi joke cards were. I was threatened doxing by a 15 year old, I called in to the SF police to warn them that I was expecting my workplace to be SWATed because people were mad I was "an ally of the feminazi gay community".
But... Folks, at the end of the day none of this really excuses humor about rape, violence, racism, etc. And if you do cross that line because you're desperate or exhausted you do get an out. You can say Mea Culpa, apologize profusely, donate some revenue to charity and people move on. The PDP's particular crisis keeps hovering (besides his degree of exposure) is that he's decided to ally with the unrepentant, openly racist parts of Youtube like Sargon.
There is an implication from this article, as I read it, that it's inevitable that people will break down or make mistakes. I agree with this part, but it also implies that we should forgive unrepentant bad actors who effectively say, "It's about the money. I thought I'd make more if I had people put up cards making light of antisemitism."
That's not a new thought, and these consequences are not new consequences.
It's worth nothing that this article was posted a month ago: since then, there was another incident along the same lines where popular YouTuber JonTron imploded for the same reasons as described in the article. Jim Sterling has the most objective take on the sequence of events: http://www.thejimquisition.com/youtubers-say-the-darndest-th...
JonTron isn't going to lose his subscriberbase from this though... I doubt most of them care. Personally I don't really, mostly because his personal views never come into play on his actual show. This kind of thing always happens when you get someone involved in comedy to participate in a serious discussion, you start realizing they have opinions and views that you may not like.
I'm sure many of his casual viewers won't care (or even know), but spaces like his subreddit have a lot of people condemning him and saying they're done with his channel. That's the sort of thing that can eventually eat away at content quality by breaking your relationship with bigger fans - think of how Many A True Nerd depends on subreddit feedback to fix mistakes and guide playthroughs.
I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…
We don't need that type of tactless behavior in online gaming. What happens on 4chan should stay on 4chan.
Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…
I'm 34 and I probably spend at lest an hour each evening that I'm at home watching YouTube. I don't watch any fiction on YouTube except for Adrian Bliss [1] who mocked vloggers and actually has story arcs running through the videos. I subscribe to many channels but my favourites are Casey Neistat [2], mainly just from the production quality point of view. Tom Scott [3] because he just covers some very interesting top…
Just in case you haven't heard of them In A Nutshell and Life Noggin are also awesome for well produced super high quality science stuff
The reason this guy went on multiple racist and antisemitic tirades - including a debate where he goes off on the terrible consequences of a world where whites aren't the minority - is ~it's hard to get in the YouTube sidebar~?
This article was about PewDiePie's nazi joke, the JonTron thing happened more recently (article is over a month old).
Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…
Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…
Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…
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There is always something or someone to be outraged at, and some people get off on it. That's the meaning of "outrage crowd". Moving from one target to another getting indignant. It's self serving, making them feel righteous.
> people like you Please don't do this. Personal attacks aren't allowed here and aren't necessary to make your point.