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Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

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Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#41

Very cool. I look forward to a Chrome extension that automatically replaces flash objects with this.

Why would you want to do that for? You would still have the annoying ads (or whatever) plus the overhead of a chrome extension to convert them when the page loads!

Clearly somebody who really likes flash ads, but for some reason doesn't like adobe?

Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#43
post #17

What I don't understand is all the people praising HTML5 because it uses less CPU than Flash yet Chrome ends up using 15-20% CPU just to render a simple animation unlike Flash.

I’m annoyed by Flash beachballing or crashing, not the use of resources.

Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you want to do that for? You would still have the annoying ads (or whatever) plus the overhead of a chrome extension to convert them when the page loads!

Clearly somebody who really likes flash ads, but for some reason doesn't like adobe?

Yet he doesn't realize he's supporting Adobe and Flash...

Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#48
post #20
post #17

What I don't understand is all the people praising HTML5 because it uses less CPU than Flash yet Chrome ends up using 15-20% CPU just to render a simple animation unlike Flash.

I believe this example is a SWF running in Canvas (as opposed to vanilla HTML5). Regardless, with HTML5 you have all the benefits of an OSS rendering engine where performance can be improved by individual implementors (eg, Apple improving WebKit on A4/ARM) or groups of developers with similar interests (eg, Google/Apple/other contributors to WebKit for x86). Where as with Adobe's Flash plugin, you're pretty much redu…

> with HTML5 you have all the benefits of an OSS rendering engine where performance can be improved by individual implementors

this, my friend, is why HTML5 is never a competitor to Flash.

Write once, debug everywhere, hell I'll just stick with Flash.

Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#49
post #19
post #17

What I don't understand is all the people praising HTML5 because it uses less CPU than Flash yet Chrome ends up using 15-20% CPU just to render a simple animation unlike Flash.

Some people probably just assume that switching to HTML5 content always uses fewer CPU resources. There are plenty of informed reasons to prefer HTML content over Flash though. One is that putting performance into the hands of multiple companies will introduce competition. Just like with Javascript speeds, you can expect browser-makers to start racing in other areas of HTML5 performance. I wouldn't be surprised to se…

> One is that putting performance into the hands of multiple companies will introduce competition. Just like with Javascript speeds

the Actionscript VM is open source. I remember there is an LLVM implementation days ago.

Re: Smokescreen - a Flash player written in Javascript and HTML5

#50
post #25

If this means that animated advertisements and other ad agency annoyances will be coming soon to my iPad web browsing experience, put me down as a detractor.

The sad thing: the ads were coming anyway. If you build a popular platform like the iPad, the advertisers will find a way to get ads on it, whether it's with Flash or not. But by banning Flash, Apple is pushing advertisers to HTML/Javascript, which ruins the experience for those marginal, blissful few who use Flash blockers on other platforms. Really, you couldn't have asked for a better indicator, short of a mandato…

> you couldn't have asked for a better indicator, short of a mandatory tag.

I am pretty sure everyone would choose tag for SEO.

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