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Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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Who cares if a small subset of people use them? It doesn't make them worthless.

Oh, I think it has value. I was just reporting that I tried it at blekko, and think I completely failed. Maybe you'll be able to do better.

Very interesting! Is the main problem really finding the users or could it be developing an interface that makes it easy enough for users of varying technical abilities to occasionally use?

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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There's no syntax of which I'm aware which tells Google to not "correct" or expand the results. When I'm seeking specific matches, I'm seeking really fucking specific matches. Google annoy me to no end.

+word It used to force to search the word exactly as written.

The plus/+ notation has been removed. You must know surround the term in quotes "word".

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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Who cares if a small subset of people use them? It doesn't make them worthless.

Oh, I think it has value. I was just reporting that I tried it at blekko, and think I completely failed. Maybe you'll be able to do better.

Why do you feel you failed? Just economics?

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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Here's what I want in a search engine: Charge me $15-25 dollars per year Let me decide what demographic information I wish to share- make it easy for me to control and help me protect my information. Because you are charging me money you can afford it and I trust you. Give me two search options: one, I'm only seeking information. two, I'm looking to buy. Do this for me as an advertiser: help me qualify the clicks I'm…

Google is making 50 USD per user, potentially an order of magnitude more from a US user from ads, so I am quite certain that your offer of $25 USD is a low baller :)

Yea but Google also makes more money than they know what to do with. Surely you could be sustainable at a lower price?

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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I think that definitely. Google lacks in quite a few areas, I think that a.) storing more data about the sites (and doing something interesting with said data) b.) improve the UI/UX for power users. The best part is that I can imagine that there would be quite a few people who would pay actual money for being able to use a better search engine. Note that the Bloomberg terminal, is, among others, a search engine. For…

http://symbolhound.com/ is great for searching symbols or code.

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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Absolutely, but search alone won't cut it no matter how smart it is. For profitability you need a whole ecosystem where ads is a major revenue source.

DuckDuckGo is a fine search engine and I believe they'd benefit a lot from services like ads, email, blogs, docs, shops, apps, social, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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That's a good question, and something I've spent much time on. Cuil (2008-2010) tried. I knew some of those people. It cost them about $30 million to launch a full scale search engine. They had no revenue model. In retrospect, they were hoping to be acquired by somebody. It was some ex-Google people, trying to replicate older Google technology. They had a great launch, but the system wasn't very good and traffic rapi…

> Yahoo had a search engine from 1995 to 2009. Yahoo is now a Bing reseller. If so, why is Yahoo Slurp still showing up in my apache logs? https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN22600.html

It's true that Yahoo uses bing, and I don't think anyone has said in public what Yahoo is up to with Slurp.

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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Yes, you just have to figure out how to get a large enough percentage of the market to switch to you so you can make a profit.

That's a much harder problem to solve today then when Google trounced AltaVista in 2000. Now search engines are tightly integrated into browsers.

One hint: I switched to Google when they released a browser toolbar. I even remember deciding to switch to whoever released a browser toolbar. What's today's equivalent of a browser toolbar?

Re: Ask HN: Is there room for another search engine?

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There are plenty of companies providing hosted ElasticSearch these days, starting with Elastic.co, the corporate sponsors of the open-source project. Amazon hosted ES is also a lot better than it was just a few months ago; they were stuck on 1.5 for the longest time, but now they've already got support for 5.1.1.

The database is just a building block for the search. You still have to implement a lot of logic and smartness on top. algolia does that out of the box.

It's not that hard though. I'm a junior dev and i managed to implement ES ( AWS hosted of course) for our site search on my on own. If i can do it, pretty sure majority of people can do it.
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