You obviously lack passion.
To the terse sibling responses to this comment... I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm.
There’s no glory in overworking, it’s just imminent burnout
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#12In the menagerie of death marches I've been a party to throughout my ~20yr career. Every single one of them was predicated on a team that was, in aggregate, a low-performing team, so we were all having to work so much to make up for the lack of ability and/or preparedness of others, and those others were having to work so much to compensate for not being particularly good at their jobs, and taking on way more respon…
When I was younger I used to work a lot of extra hours because I enjoyed the work.
Now not so much, but still get enthused about things from time to time and find myself still at work at 8:00pm not even aware of what time it is.
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#15In the menagerie of death marches I've been a party to throughout my ~20yr career. Every single one of them was predicated on a team that was, in aggregate, a low-performing team, so we were all having to work so much to make up for the lack of ability and/or preparedness of others, and those others were having to work so much to compensate for not being particularly good at their jobs, and taking on way more respon…
When I was younger I used to work a lot of extra hours because I enjoyed the work. Now not so much, but still get enthused about things from time to time and find myself still at work at 8:00pm not even aware of what time it is.
Likewise. I still stay up late most nights after my wife and child go to bed so that I can have 2-3 hours of uninterrupted time to work on little projects that are interesting to me or help expand my skill set.
But that kind of work is elective, and is essentially a hybrid of hobby and duty, so I'm not convinced it fits the typical mold of a path to inevitable burnout.
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#16Have any of you come across recent research papers on this from STEM engineers and medical professionals inside and outside of academia?
Yes. In the case of MDs there is contradictory evidence. On one hand, a popular form of hazing is to make junior members work insane sleepless hours (like 24 hours straight!). On the other hand, the transfer of care from one doctor to another is a common source of errors.
PhD is a whole different story because cut-throat competition, the 996 work habits, and oppressive Confucius culture are hallmarks of the student's native lands.
tldr;
Doctors are like frat boys while PhD students bring the cultural norms from their home countries.
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#18You obviously lack passion.
She must be over 27
Ducks!
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#20Yeah fuck any place that wants you to work 90 hours a week. Stay only until you can find a better job.
Even that might be too long in some cases. Living out of a car and eating only dog biscuits while you work on portfolio pieces and find a better job is a preferable option for some fraction of people without families. No joke at all.
There's a ton of work at high income - it may not always be in the perfect location, or be "sexy", but for every developer who is still at the office at 11pm, someone else, using the same language, getting paid the same amount, is going to bed after being home for 4 hours.