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Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

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Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

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It's annoying that SV tech companies get a bad rap with the H-1B even though that the real people abusing these visas are clearly outsourcing firms like Tata and Infosys.

True.. Im Indian.. I came to the US on a H-1B.. My wife is on a H-1B.. We both are employed in the bay area and make close to 450K per annum.. with about $1.5M in stocks vesting in the next few years..

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

#12
post #6

This is progress. Give a copy of this to your employer if they start talking about replacing you with an H1-B.

This makes no sense. If you are getting replaced then it's through an outsourcing company. Your employer wouldn't even be doing the fraud. It's the outsourcing company.

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

#13
Guys nothing is gonna happen .. h1b abuses will continue as before so will l1 and b1 visa abuses, your jobs will be shipped to Mexico China India and Machineland. There has to be an international agreement that any company that sells to USA Europe China and India need to pay a special tax that will allow universal basic income for residents of those countries. That is the price for accessing the largest markets in the world that companies should pay.

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

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post #6

This is progress. Give a copy of this to your employer if they start talking about replacing you with an H1-B.

This makes no sense. If you are getting replaced then it's through an outsourcing company. Your employer wouldn't even be doing the fraud. It's the outsourcing company.

In many cases, the employers are also engaging in tangential fraud. A common situation is for employers to post impossible experience requirements at an impossibly low salaries...obviously no qualified candidates come through...and then claim they searched domestically unsuccessfully. The kicker is that the H1 resource often then hired lacks most of the impossible requirements.

The H1 system is completely gamed by both outsources and employers with legions of people at both places gaming the paperwork. It really needs a total overhaul.

I'm not against foreign workers, but we should be getting the best foreign workers, not just the cheapest ones we can find. A good system might be a reverse auction system where H1s are allotted first to the highest offer and goes down until allotments are filled. Then, perhaps employers would consider all the local graduates and reserve H1 spots for exceptional talent we need from overseas.

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

#15
In bay area there are quite a handful of such firms which fake person resume and help them find out the job. What surprises me is that employer does catch the difference in experience while interviewing and bunch of positions are filled. These firms file h1b shown more experience than what a person does actually have and make good money out of such schemes :(

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

#17

It's annoying that SV tech companies get a bad rap with the H-1B even though that the real people abusing these visas are clearly outsourcing firms like Tata and Infosys.

It's not Tata and Infosys either. Those guys are too big to avoid playing more or less by the rules.

The actual people playing games like this are small time bodyshops. It'll be two cousins from Ahmedebad starting a shop in the US and hiring a bunch of locals via their personal network. They then attempt to socially isolate their employees, getting them set up in the local Guju community, so they don't talk to outsiders and discover their true market worth.

Re: Bay Area professionals indicted for H-1B visa fraud

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post #15

In bay area there are quite a handful of such firms which fake person resume and help them find out the job. What surprises me is that employer does catch the difference in experience while interviewing and bunch of positions are filled. These firms file h1b shown more experience than what a person does actually have and make good money out of such schemes :(

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