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Facts: Hacker News gets a ton of articles posted from Medium, but very few of them get to the front page. Last time I measured there had been 4,108 posts from medium.com in 2017 (largest source of news for HN), but less than 3% of them got some upvote traction. So you seem to be sharing a similar sentiment towards Medium than the rest of the HN readers. (Even posting tweets to HN gets them double the attention than a…
Can you compare to the stats for wordpress?
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#42What I fail to understand is how something like Medium turns into a bloated ~150 person company that's burning VC cash like crazy with no clear path towards becoming an actual business that makes decent revenue, let alone profit. Whether it's a bubble or not is semantics but it's these sorts of 'companies' that the market needs to flush out of the ecosystem ASAP.
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Because it is difficult, a lot of work and potentially very expensive (when you have traffic) to build your own. If you are in tech, you should understand to use the right tool for the job.
I'm not saying you have to build a server to host your blog. You can host it on AWS or elsewhere if you get a lot of traffic. It's not that hard to get a domain name, host it somewhere, and write some HTML code. Yes, it could be difficult and a lot of work if you think you need embedded videos that autoplay and follow readers as they scroll down trying to escape that and the pop up pestering them to subscribe.
AWS is madness for personal projects. You don't seem to realize how bad you're about to be bankrupt when an article hit the front HN page. If you have a high quality picture, a gif or a video, it's game over.
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Because it is difficult, a lot of work and potentially very expensive (when you have traffic) to build your own. If you are in tech, you should understand to use the right tool for the job.
you could easy have a web server with thousands of visitors running on a rasbery pi. i would say a week end project to set it up or one hour if you already are familiar with web servers.
You seriously overestimate the capabilities of a raspberry and undestimate the traffic you get.
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#45This article is a pretty good take-down of Medium's business model and its future prospects. But even if you don't really care about Medium, it's actually a very strong piece otherwise, because it presents a fairly comprehensive list of the various business models that online publishers have tried over the years, along with data about how successful those strategies have been. I'm a former journalist who had to leave…
Whenever people ask me how I got into the technology industry (as a non-CS person), my short answer is something like this: when I saw what the Internet was doing to print media, I knew I had to learn how to code. Which led to having to learn how to design (CSS & JS). Which led to having to learn how to create servers for hosting and zero-downtime deploy. And also needing to understand machine capabilities and OSes and network loads and... etc.
Journalism was what I loved in middle and high school: darkroom photography and developing pictures from literal film in stop bath. Cropping shots with razor blades before gluing them on mockups. Soliciting local businesses for ads sold by the square inch. Writing and editing and editing and editing because hey... once that hits the press there is no edit button.
The process of traditional journalism is kind of dead, yes; though I don't think the industry itself has lost its business model... more like it fractured in a way that made national and world news dissemination way more powerful than the local yokel beat. That was what initially happened, anyway: small newspapers simply could not compete, and those that could were slurped up by massive parent companies that may or may not be entirely neutral or unbiased, politically, due to their size.
However, I think the tides are starting to shift and the trend is back toward localization. My initial grand design plan for Ecosteader, for example, was big and national.. like a magazine. I realized that the kind of advertising I'd need to be able to sell in this niche would actually do best locally. And indeed, this is why I keep the site live (despite the fact that I have sold only one book and received zero dollars from Adsense). I am pretty sure that going forward the next "big" disruptive thing in will be in hyper-localization ... ecological and efficient when it comes to physical goods and labor.
Anyway... slight digression, but I think it's indicative of what matters WRT to what people are willing to pay for when it comes to advertising delivered alongside content. Advertising works when people are looking for specific content relevant to them and they notice a good deal or a sale or a new store opening or something interesting about a place they see IRL.
This is getting too long. I will stop now.
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It's a blogging platform. Why posts hosted there should be any less interesting than posts hosted on any other platform?
For some odd reason medium attracts the worst content. All those super optimistic shallow nonsense. Urgh.
Let me place my bet: Professional look (design, typography) + Medium brand + very little effort to publish + chance to get featured if it attracts clicks.
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#47When I see a nice Headline on HN: "Oh cool, I would love to read that", then I look at the domain: "Oh it's on medium. Never mind then." I'd never pay for that shit show.
Facts: Hacker News gets a ton of articles posted from Medium, but very few of them get to the front page. Last time I measured there had been 4,108 posts from medium.com in 2017 (largest source of news for HN), but less than 3% of them got some upvote traction. So you seem to be sharing a similar sentiment towards Medium than the rest of the HN readers. (Even posting tweets to HN gets them double the attention than a…
i suspect probably quite a few more front pages if you include that.
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> it has become the go-to site for tech musings written by unpaid people who can't be bothered to set up their own blogs. This is it for me. If you want to write about tech, or the tech scene, and especially web tech, why can't you just build a site? I've built a few and I don't even do web development for a living so I had to teach myself some stuff.
Because it is difficult, a lot of work and potentially very expensive (when you have traffic) to build your own. If you are in tech, you should understand to use the right tool for the job.
While Medium is a very beautiful, well designed site, it doesn't work equally well for every kind of content out there. Technical content with code snippets are one of the least-suitable type of content for Medium.com design.
No matter how much thought is put into the design of the site, Medium's design is still designed to be a one-size-fit-all kind of product, and well, that means no matter how high quality their design is, it is still taking a somewhat "highest-common-denominator" approach to the design.
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#50I'm happy to pay for things that provide value in my life. I pay a modest amount to some bloggers directly via Patreon for what I could otherwise get for free. I'm also considering doing the same for The Guardian (though that gets me the removal of ads). It's not out of the question that I would want to do the same for Medium. I would miss them if they went away or had to change direction to monetise in new ways that…
I contribute $54/month on Patreon and $10/month on YouTube Red for creators.
Having said that I think people will struggle with Medium because Patreon is sold on a personal relationship with a given creator and genuinely wanting more from them. Seems like that won't work so well with Medium.
I like Medium though