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Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by mechanical_fish »

paulgb wrote: post #9
tbx wrote: post #3

if it is about money, it can become easily into a (yet another) "rent-a-coder" startup... but the idea is good, if you can keep the hacker's quality up

That's the thing - there are a tonne of rent-a-coder clones, but I have a feeling the quality of coders on YC News is much higher than that of rent-a-coder. The problem is, if you start listing jobs here, people will come for the jobs, possibly bringing the quality down. Perhaps limiting it to LISP, Haskell and Python jobs would work. Most of these sites target Java or PHP or Rails developers, so it's hard to find wo…

if you start listing jobs here, people will come for the jobs, possibly bringing the quality down.

Even worse, recruiters will spam us with thousands of lousy jobs, bringing the quality down even faster.

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by aneesh »

deltapoint wrote: post #8
tonyvt2005 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but personally I wouldn't mind it going both ways (karma or $).

That brings up how much is a karma point worth in monetary terms?

exactly zero dollars. if you tried to fix an exchange rate, you'd run into problems, because the supply of karma is infinite.

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by joshwa »

dkasper wrote: post #7
rms wrote: post #5

Oh man... I'd love to pay karma to have people do programming jobs for me. Hell, if anyone wants to do a decent size but not particularly challenging job, I'll give you my account permanently. Also, I think you're fine to just submit a cash job as a normal story.

Next think you know we'll have a currency exchange of karma points for dollars.

writes business plan

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by noodle »

PStamatiou wrote: post #10
paulgb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing - there are a tonne of rent-a-coder clones, but I have a feeling the quality of coders on YC News is much higher than that of rent-a-coder. The problem is, if you start listing jobs here, people will come for the jobs, possibly bringing the quality down. Perhaps limiting it to LISP, Haskell and Python jobs would work. Most of these sites target Java or PHP or Rails developers, so it's hard to find wo…

Maybe if postings were limited to users with > 50 karma or something so it couldn't be gamed.

even better, limit the ability for the job postings to even be viewed to only people with X karma. that would keep both the gig postings and respondents to people within the community. (i've seen it done elsewhere with reasonable success)

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by bap »

At the risk of interjecting fiction into a business discussion.

This whole thing 'karma vs cash' reminds me of the intersection between the way Cory Doctorow describes the 'Whuffie' reputation based currency in 'Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom' and the way the the protagonist of Charlie Stross' 'Accelerando' makes his living in the first chapter or so of the book.

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by aneesh »

dkasper wrote: post #7
rms wrote: post #5

Oh man... I'd love to pay karma to have people do programming jobs for me. Hell, if anyone wants to do a decent size but not particularly challenging job, I'll give you my account permanently. Also, I think you're fine to just submit a cash job as a normal story.

Next think you know we'll have a currency exchange of karma points for dollars.

again, you can't do this. it wouldn't work because karma is infinite. the reason a Euro or USD has value is because there is a limited supply of them.

if you did fix an exchange rate of karma to USD or whatever currency, you and a friend could just upmod each other's comments to get free money.

Re: Ask YC: Hacker News Feature Request - Gigs Page

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Post by Spyckie »

I think monetary transactions should stay out of hacker news because money attracts a crowd that is less than desirable and it is hard to keep them out.

Also, I don't think opening it up for help is a good idea either. The only kind of help that I would care about is high level design or algorithm/memory/time efficiency help. However, the only help most people ask for is "my code doesn't run" help. If there was a way to effectively minimize this, then maybe...

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