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Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#191

> The only solution is to unite in changing our behavior. We need to give website operators an ultimatum: Remove the modals, or we leave Another solution is to have ad blockers also block modals, like there is to be for popups

The article explains why that's nontrivial.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#193
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the street analogy is accurate; it's more like having someone at the door of every store you go into asking for your phone number as you walk in.

> it's more like having someone at the door of every store you go into asking for your phone number as you walk in. Which is exactly what many stores do, except on the way out (at the register.) They also tend to get pretty annoyed at you when you say "no thanks" to providing a number.

(202) 867-5309

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#196

I usually subscribe postmaster@(domain) to the newsletter as RFC822 requires the account to be active ;)

My initial thought is that signing up abuse@(domain) would be a clever irony. My next thought is that abusing the abuse inbox is probably a dick move to the sysadmin who's job it is to keep things working.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#197
post #9

This is what happens when you mindlessly optimise for metrics like user signups - not surprisingly, you get more signups when you block the content with an obnoxious modal but after a few years, you wonder where all your users went. How much value do you really get from a user who was forced to sign up with a gun to their head?

this, people are too worried about the size of their list as opposed to actual engagement. If they don't open your emails they're just costing you money with your ESP. If you have good content people will search hard for a way to get on your email list if necessary, i've done it before.

I manage the newsletter signups for a developer-focused company. I have a graph on a dashboard that shows "Fucks Given" for the newsletter signup. Essentially how many `fuckoff@fuckyou.com` type signups happen per week. Any time we try and increase the number of signups by changing the form, we also make sure that the number of "Fucks Given" stays as close to zero as possible. (Some people are just angry.)

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#198

Good thing we replaced those annoying Flash banners with javascript Old guys like me saw this coming from miles away, it's just history repeating itself. To give you all a heads-up: in the future browsers will ask you "This site wants to open a new javascript dialog. Show/block"

Of course, not that simple.

In the future, every other website will ship their own rendering engine (from some big CDN, of course) that prohibits you from messing with their precious spam. Heck, I honestly do expect some startups doing just this kind of "innovation" as soon as WebAssembly gets slightly more polished and cross-browser, so probably just another year or two from now.

(That shit will be fought with AI/ML nextgen ad-blockers, that would try to "see" what that positioned is - a spammy modal or some legit navigation sidebar... and I don't dare to think any further, as we approach the singularity.)

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#200

> The only solution is to unite in changing our behavior. We need to give website operators an ultimatum: Remove the modals, or we leave Another solution is to have ad blockers also block modals, like there is to be for popups

The article explains why that's nontrivial.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/modal-remover/affk...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stoppity-poppity/a...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/behindtheoverlay/l...

I personally only install highly trusted Chrome Extension, I will review those at some point.

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