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Senate Guts Privacy Rules. Will House Follow Suit?

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Re: Senate Guts Privacy Rules. Will House Follow Suit?

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Post by rrggrr »

wodencafe wrote: post #13

What a bunch of sell-out traitors. Is there no party that values privacy, individual liberty, or the constitution? I thought these "Senators" took an oath to protect the constitution. From the way they vote, it seems they never even read it!

(1) Don't bet on many of them understanding their vote. It was billed as a removal of an unfair restraint on the free market.

(2) Oddly silent were folks like Google, Microsoft, etc. I fully expect to have to pay for privacy, or to have to choose whom I trust with my data: Comcast or Google.

Its a shitty time for privacy, period.

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Post by rayiner »

wodencafe wrote: post #13

What a bunch of sell-out traitors. Is there no party that values privacy, individual liberty, or the constitution? I thought these "Senators" took an oath to protect the constitution. From the way they vote, it seems they never even read it!

I think companies profiting on privacy is a bad thing, but how exactly is it unconstitutional?

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Post by ignu »

wodencafe wrote: post #13

What a bunch of sell-out traitors. Is there no party that values privacy, individual liberty, or the constitution? I thought these "Senators" took an oath to protect the constitution. From the way they vote, it seems they never even read it!

uh, no Democrat voted for this.

"The Senate" didn't vote for this. The Republicans did.

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Post by maxxxxx »

joshontheweb wrote: post #7
maxxxxx wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They read papers prepared by lobbyists, think "makes sense" and vote for it. That's how law making often works.

I'm having a hard time imagining a compelling case that the lobbyists could present though. Are most of these representatives just willfully corrupt? I hate to vilify people unduly but it is becoming hard to understand the thought process here.

You can make a compelling case for pretty much anything if you don't have to present conflicting views. That's what lobbyists are experts for.

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Post by zedpm »

rosser wrote: post #20
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

Here's the roll-call vote [1]. Find your Senator. If they voted in agreement with your views, call and congratulate them. If they didn't, call and explain why you're disappointed. Then immediately call your Congressperson. [1] https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

TL;DR on the roll-call: Yea: 50, all R Nay: 46 D, 2 I Abstain: 2, all R EDIT: Thanks, zedpm.

Nay: 46 D, 2 I actually.

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Post by goda90 »

rayiner wrote: post #22
wodencafe wrote: post #13

What a bunch of sell-out traitors. Is there no party that values privacy, individual liberty, or the constitution? I thought these "Senators" took an oath to protect the constitution. From the way they vote, it seems they never even read it!

I think companies profiting on privacy is a bad thing, but how exactly is it unconstitutional?

It should be pretty clear that privacy against government agencies is protected by the Constitution. Of course our government ignores that and tramples all over the spirit of the Bill of Rights, if not the letter.

As far as corporations? Not unconstitutional, but I don't think passing laws in the interest of the People's privacy against corporations would be unconstitutional either, so if our government had our best interests in mind, then they'd pass those laws instead of repealing them.

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Post by js2 »

I won't be surprised if AT&T revives its "Internet Preferences" targeted ads program[1]. Most customers apparently didn't care and were willing to put up with it for a $29/mo discount. AT&T never indicated why they canceled it, but my money is that it was due to the FCC regulations that were put in place.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/att-t...

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Post by rhino369 »

joshontheweb wrote: post #7
maxxxxx wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They read papers prepared by lobbyists, think "makes sense" and vote for it. That's how law making often works.

I'm having a hard time imagining a compelling case that the lobbyists could present though. Are most of these representatives just willfully corrupt? I hate to vilify people unduly but it is becoming hard to understand the thought process here.

>I'm having a hard time imagining a compelling case that the lobbyists could present though.

If I were them:

Look how much money Google and Facebook make doing this. Doesn't make sense to prevent AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast from doing the same.

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