Theres ambiguous separation between the words on the picture. It reads phonetically as "MugayatheenPak Udaya Kappal Mani". The translation is spot on. Source: I'm a native speaker from Tamil Nadu.
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#32Theres ambiguous separation between the words on the picture. It reads phonetically as "MugayatheenPak Udaya Kappal Mani". The translation is spot on. Source: I'm a native speaker from Tamil Nadu.
What is "MugayatheenPak"?
"Muhayideen Bak" i.e., the person who owned the ship from which the bell came.
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#33As a Tamil, I am surprised by so many such things that I come across about our ancestors. No wonder we take a lot of pride in our culture, sometimes to the extreme.
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#34Trincomalee would be a good base, second biggest harbor in the world. Cool to see something Sri Lanka related on HN
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#35Theres ambiguous separation between the words on the picture. It reads phonetically as "MugayatheenPak Udaya Kappal Mani". The translation is spot on. Source: I'm a native speaker from Tamil Nadu.
So am I. I was surprised when it said some of the characters were in Old/Archaic Tamil but I could read the characters fairly clearly.
Also, I noticed the actual inscription on top is pronouncing something else that i cannot understand. Only the bottom inscription (translation) is comprehensible for me. I think the bell has only the top section sentence inscribed in it. Can you comprehend the top one?
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#36Interesting. There has to be more evidence of other nations discovering Australia and New Zealand before the ones mentioned in our history books. Nearer to me, the Tiwi islands just off the coast of North Australia have unearthed jade figurines and artifacts that seem to originate from China or another Asian country, which date back to before the time of Captain Cook. Update: Article on early Chinese explorers reachi…
Edited. Was Australia a part of Indian subcontinent back then?
Actually continental drift explains a variety of phenomena that have been falsely attributed to human exploration: English is spoken in New York, for example, because the british isles used to be connected to New England. Even the names reflect this: when the landmasses separated Queen Victoria proudly viewed them as a geological projection of the British sphere of influence and christened her new islands "New England" "New York", "New Hampshire" etc.
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#37> Translated, it says "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship’s bell".
I like language, and this inscription makes me wonder. Why write on a bell that it's a bell? I'd be less surprised if the bell had said "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship".
I mean, I get that school buildings say "School" because otherwise it's really just a building. But a bell? Isn't that a bit like writing "Headmaster's Office Door" on the headmaster's office door?
I wonder whether maybe it was just an artsy kind of joke. A bit like how in import stores you can buys forks that say "FORK" on the handle.
I now imagine the crew on that ship looking up to the bell every once in a while, grinning, thinking "that Baksh fella is a tough one but at least he has some sense of humor".
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#38> Translated, it says "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship’s bell". I like language, and this inscription makes me wonder. Why write on a bell that it's a bell? I'd be less surprised if the bell had said "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship". I mean, I get that school buildings say "School" because otherwise it's really just a building. But a bell? Isn't that a bit like writing "Headmaster's Office Door" on the headmaster's office door? I w…
I'm guessing that the construction and workmanship of the bell made it an item of adornment for the ship. Inscribing a name on it would make sense if it were so valuable.
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#39Here's the picture: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/1135/the-tamil-bell
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#40> Translated, it says "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship’s bell". I like language, and this inscription makes me wonder. Why write on a bell that it's a bell? I'd be less surprised if the bell had said "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship". I mean, I get that school buildings say "School" because otherwise it's really just a building. But a bell? Isn't that a bit like writing "Headmaster's Office Door" on the headmaster's office door? I w…
Anecdotal reason: I'm Indian, and we have some high quality (and possibly expensive) utensils that have been passed down for a couple of generations. They have all have my grandad's name etched on them somewhere, as a means of identification.