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Google ditches Windows on security concerns

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Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#11

The big hack was apparently based on a zero day IE flaw. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/01/hack-of-adob Wouldn't it be easier to make their employees use chrome?

Sure, but there's only one way to completely uninstall IE and it sounds like that's exactly what they're doing.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#12

so what happens when an exploit other than IE is used in the future when something goes down at Google? Seems like a decision taken in haste and more of a knee-jerk reaction.

That's why they're ditching not IE but windows altogether.

Doesn't seem knee-jerk to me when you look at the security track record of the various platforms.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#13

so what happens when an exploit other than IE is used in the future when something goes down at Google? Seems like a decision taken in haste and more of a knee-jerk reaction.

Google is getting in to the OS business. I suspect this is as much about dogfood as security, but hammering on security is instant bad press for Microsoft.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#14
Is there any evidence that Windows 7 is less secured than Snow Leopard? Windows employs more advanced security techniques. IE has outlasted Safari in Pwn2Own since IE8. Windows releases security fixes much faster.

If they favor OS X over Windows that is completely fine, but I think they are implying something that isn't true in regards to security. If someone exploits OS X on them, is everyone moving to Linux next?

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#15
"Many people have been moved away from [Windows] PCs, mostly towards Mac OS, following the China hacking attacks"

Wait, so they're phasing out Windows for security reasons, and moving to Mac instead? It at least made sense when they were moving to Linux or ChromeOS, but OS X's security track record as of late is far worse than Windows.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

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I'm a bit surprised that there was significant internal use of Windows at Google. I had the impression that most PCs there ran Linux.

Let's not ignore non-technical employees.

Most companies do not give non-technical employees a choice of OS.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#17
"Getting a new Windows machine now requires CIO approval," said another employee.

I really hope that's quoted out of context (e.g. maybe it's really getting a second machine, regardless of OS, that requires CIO approval?).

I doubt we're getting the whole story here. I'm sure there are everyday tasks that can be done more effectively on Windows (I've been Linux-only for a couple of years now, so I can't imagine what they are, but I'm sure they exist). And "Windows isn't secure" is absurdly simplistic (particularly at a company which can presumably hire the best sysadmins in the business). Constraining your employees like that to save the IT department a little effort doesn't sound like a good tradeoff.

I'd speculate this is more about politics, or dogfooding. Maybe they're trying to move employees from Office to Google Apps, and that's easier if Office is no longer available.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

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Lots of new Mac and Linux users. Hopefully, some of the people will be dedicating some of their 20% time to improving the Mac and Linux platforms.

I can assure you that the only users at Google that are affected by this decision are sales and marketing.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

#19

"Many people have been moved away from [Windows] PCs, mostly towards Mac OS, following the China hacking attacks" Wait, so they're phasing out Windows for security reasons, and moving to Mac instead? It at least made sense when they were moving to Linux or ChromeOS, but OS X's security track record as of late is far worse than Windows.

I would agree. Windows has the largest population of non-computer literate people worldwide so hackers get the bigest bang for their buck and windows gets a bad rap. If everyone jumps to another OS so will the security problems.

Re: Google ditches Windows on security concerns

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"Many people have been moved away from [Windows] PCs, mostly towards Mac OS, following the China hacking attacks" Wait, so they're phasing out Windows for security reasons, and moving to Mac instead? It at least made sense when they were moving to Linux or ChromeOS, but OS X's security track record as of late is far worse than Windows.

I would agree. Windows has the largest population of non-computer literate people worldwide so hackers get the bigest bang for their buck and windows gets a bad rap. If everyone jumps to another OS so will the security problems.

?! Are you missing the part where OS X is based on BSD?
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