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Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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Sustainable as in "I can make a career of this" or "if this particular project wanes, I can always hop over to one of the many other projects." If you pad your listings, people will assume you need to because there _aren't_ many such jobs. Moreso over time as the ratio of filled listings to active recruitment grows -- if all visitors ever see are jobs that no longer accept applications, they will not come away with a…

Again: We am not "padding" anything. The site exists since 2012, and we keep old job listings around, as an archive and to help find interesting potential employers that may have jobs apart of what is listed. There's an open ticket about "fading them out" a little to make it even more obvious. There's plenty of recent jobs listed, so your point about "only ever seeing jobs that no longer accept applications" is moot.…

> There's an open ticket about "fading them out" a little to make it even more obvious.

As someone who recently was job hunting and come across another site with this problem: absolutely do this. You get the bonus of instantly showing the user which jobs are current, so they don't notice only after wasting time and then jump to the assumption the site is dead. You show users that you take the up-to-dateness of the data seriously. And lastly you get to keep the archive around, which I agree with you is a good thing to do.

> There's plenty of recent jobs listed, so your point about "only ever seeing jobs that no longer accept applications" is moot.

Not for me there's not. I'm in the UK and it's all 2 years old.

(Good idea tho, hope it continues well!)

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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If you’re up for contributing a simple timeout or something like that I guess the developers would appreciate that a lot :) https://github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/

I don't think so, somewhere else in this thread the developer of this job board says that his intention is to keep all listings forever, as this would prove that paid FOSS jobs exists in abundance. IMO a debatable approach. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920594

No. I want to keep them around, sure, but of course they can be styled differently.

I don't know what makes everyone so upset at old listings. They are listed chronologically, there is an RSS feed to follow for fresh things. It's not like it's thousands of mixed jobs where you have to hunt for the recent postings? I definitely don't object to someone adding an archive/expiry functionality that does not completely delete old job listings. If you look at the referenced ticket on github, I created it.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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Again: We am not "padding" anything. The site exists since 2012, and we keep old job listings around, as an archive and to help find interesting potential employers that may have jobs apart of what is listed. There's an open ticket about "fading them out" a little to make it even more obvious. There's plenty of recent jobs listed, so your point about "only ever seeing jobs that no longer accept applications" is moot.…

> There's an open ticket about "fading them out" a little to make it even more obvious. As someone who recently was job hunting and come across another site with this problem: absolutely do this. You get the bonus of instantly showing the user which jobs are current, so they don't notice only after wasting time and then jump to the assumption the site is dead. You show users that you take the up-to-dateness of the da…

Plenty of recent jobs are open to remote workers, which includes UK.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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Is it possible to work at Red Hat without using any proprietary software, let alone write any?

It's not possible to work ANYWHERE without using proprietary software, running on patended hardware, coming partially from China.

Hardware and patents are both unrelated to my question.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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If you’re up for contributing a simple timeout or something like that I guess the developers would appreciate that a lot :) https://github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/

I don't think so, somewhere else in this thread the developer of this job board says that his intention is to keep all listings forever, as this would prove that paid FOSS jobs exists in abundance. IMO a debatable approach. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920594

I think that's silly. There could have been hundreds of well-paid FOSS jobs in 2013. That doesn't matter at all if there are none in 2017. It doesn't even prove anyone was ever hired for that job, only that it was posted.

There's certainly analytical value in having every FOSS job you could have ever seen, but none for the end user.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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I don't think so, somewhere else in this thread the developer of this job board says that his intention is to keep all listings forever, as this would prove that paid FOSS jobs exists in abundance. IMO a debatable approach. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920594

No. I want to keep them around, sure, but of course they can be styled differently. I don't know what makes everyone so upset at old listings. They are listed chronologically, there is an RSS feed to follow for fresh things. It's not like it's thousands of mixed jobs where you have to hunt for the recent postings? I definitely don't object to someone adding an archive/expiry functionality that does not completely del…

Nobody is suggesting old jobs should be deleted from your database (I doubt any job listing website would do this). Just that the old jobs are too irrelevant to display by default as visitors are generally only interested in current vacancies.

Keeping the old jobs as a separate search option (eg "[ ] include historic items") de-clutters the primary purpose of the site. That matters when you consider that few people enjoy the process of job hunting so will quickly abandon any platform with a poor signal to noise ratio.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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Congrats, there seem to be interesting offerings and employers on fossjobs.net. What are the criteria to be listed on fossjobs.net? Right now, I'm also seeing some admin/devops jobs that are only related to F/OSS insofar as eg. Linux is being used, but won't contribute to anything distributable under F/OSS licenses.

I've been looking for something like this.

I just want to say I appreciate the effort! :)

Yay FOSS!

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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No. I want to keep them around, sure, but of course they can be styled differently. I don't know what makes everyone so upset at old listings. They are listed chronologically, there is an RSS feed to follow for fresh things. It's not like it's thousands of mixed jobs where you have to hunt for the recent postings? I definitely don't object to someone adding an archive/expiry functionality that does not completely del…

Nobody is suggesting old jobs should be deleted from your database (I doubt any job listing website would do this). Just that the old jobs are too irrelevant to display by default as visitors are generally only interested in current vacancies. Keeping the old jobs as a separate search option (eg "[ ] include historic items") de-clutters the primary purpose of the site. That matters when you consider that few people e…

So, where's the patch?

I spend some of my free time to collect and post open source jobs someplace. That's my goal.

Re: Fossjobs: A website for free and open-source software jobs

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I don't think so, somewhere else in this thread the developer of this job board says that his intention is to keep all listings forever, as this would prove that paid FOSS jobs exists in abundance. IMO a debatable approach. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920594

I think that's silly. There could have been hundreds of well-paid FOSS jobs in 2013. That doesn't matter at all if there are none in 2017. It doesn't even prove anyone was ever hired for that job, only that it was posted. There's certainly analytical value in having every FOSS job you could have ever seen, but none for the end user.

It certainly matters to a lot of people around me, and in conversations I have. It may not matter to some random people on Hacker News.
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