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Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by rayiner »

ferongr wrote: post #27
kayoone wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern LTE latency is comparable to DSL/Cable at <=30ms in many cases. Sure fiber latency is lower, but until that is available to the same amount of people as DSL/Cable the mobile technology will have advanced too. Online gaming and streaming is totally fine over a LTE connection, the only problem is bandwidth caps. (This might not apply to professional gamers, but i consider those a niche)

30ms is abysmal.

That's roughly the transit latency from Texas to the coasts. By your logic even a fiber link from Texas to NYC will have "abysmal" latency.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by treelovinhippie »

nrki wrote: post #5

It's widely acknowledged that Telstra's LTE network is by far the best in Australia. It's also by far the most expensive. The 180GB of data used for the tests would have cost them - assuming "BYO device" plans and that Telstra did not give it to them for free: On the "Large" (50/30GB) home wireless plan: $150/month + $1300 for the 130GB extra used during peak times. On the "M" (25/15GB) home plan: $100/month + $1550…

Heh yep. According to the Nighthawk M1 plans the best is AUD$70/mo for 20GB and $0.0035 per MB after that. So their 180GB would have cost AUD$630. Little more reasonable, but still not a mainstream price yet.

https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/mobile-broadband/nighth...

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by coffeecheque »

cknight wrote: post #12
djsumdog wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm honestly take TPG's crappy DSL, which is cheaper and has unlimited plans, over high speed connection at prices like that. It's easier to simply queue up stuff overnight. What's the current state of the NBN network in major cities? What's the availability of Fibre in cities like Sydney, Melbourne and Perth? Are there unmetered plans? Are they affordable?

NBN state is less than stellar, a vast majority of suburbs have no NBN at all, and a very small minority have actual fibre to the premise. Unmetered plans are becoming more common but are only "affordable" ($60-70 a month) at the lowest speed offering (12mbit). If you want unmetered at 25 or 100mbit, you're looking at 80 or 100 respectively, and that's looking at TPG and iiNet.

FWIW (and I know this is a single data point), but my experience with NBN has been positive.

It's also Fibre to the Node (FTTN) which is often maligned in internet/tech circles for being a poor technology choice. I'd prefer FttP, but it's not an option and I'll take what I can get.

I'm now getting close to my plan's speed (50/20), but you're right about the increased cost. It's roughly 45% more. But the speed from the old ADSL2 plan is probably 4-5 times faster.

The only complaint I would have is that speeds during peak are pretty off the advertised plan speed. They fall to around 18-20mbs down at night.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by jen729w »

nrki wrote: post #5

It's widely acknowledged that Telstra's LTE network is by far the best in Australia. It's also by far the most expensive. The 180GB of data used for the tests would have cost them - assuming "BYO device" plans and that Telstra did not give it to them for free: On the "Large" (50/30GB) home wireless plan: $150/month + $1300 for the 130GB extra used during peak times. On the "M" (25/15GB) home plan: $100/month + $1550…

They were the best, and then Vodafone shat the bed and haemorrhaged customers, most of whom (inc. me) went to Telstra.

Their network wasn't ready for an influx of hundreds of thousands of people, and it went downhill fast. Now, that was a couple of years ago and I'd be happy to hear that they've improved. I'm no longer with Telstra - because of the reasons I've outlined above.

Edit: I realised I have work's Telstra 4G dongle in my bag. Totally unscientific test: Speedtest just reported 26ms/8.91Mbps down/5.95Mbps up. I got the iPhone 5(?) on the day of launch, which was pretty much the first 4G phone in Australia. Sitting in central Melbourne I got ~50Mbps up/down. :-/

Edit 2: My phone's native Optus 4G connection gets 23ms/7.23Mbps down/2.26Mbps up.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by photojosh »

benchaney wrote: post #7
bigtones wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Telstra LTE bandwidth is extremely expensive too at around $5 per Gigabyte, so their test of just 180GB would have cost about USD $75.

I get 10$ per GB. :(

I ditched Tesltra for the Aldi (Telstra 4G reseller) year-long pre-paid plan when they offered it for a short time.

42GB for $250 = $6/GB.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by ux-app »

jen729w wrote: post #34
nrki wrote: post #5

It's widely acknowledged that Telstra's LTE network is by far the best in Australia. It's also by far the most expensive. The 180GB of data used for the tests would have cost them - assuming "BYO device" plans and that Telstra did not give it to them for free: On the "Large" (50/30GB) home wireless plan: $150/month + $1300 for the 130GB extra used during peak times. On the "M" (25/15GB) home plan: $100/month + $1550…

They were the best, and then Vodafone shat the bed and haemorrhaged customers, most of whom (inc. me) went to Telstra. Their network wasn't ready for an influx of hundreds of thousands of people, and it went downhill fast. Now, that was a couple of years ago and I'd be happy to hear that they've improved. I'm no longer with Telstra - because of the reasons I've outlined above. Edit: I realised I have work's Telstra 4…

Those are quite poor speeds. I'm with Optus with a 4G connection and just did a speed test on my Galaxy S7

80Mbps down!! wow I was surprised to see this. I thought my home 30Mbps cable connection was good

20Mbps up, this was an even bigger shock. I'm only on about 2Mbps up on my home connection.

90ms latency from Adelaide to Sydney which seems pretty good too.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by jen729w »

ux-app wrote: post #36
jen729w wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were the best, and then Vodafone shat the bed and haemorrhaged customers, most of whom (inc. me) went to Telstra. Their network wasn't ready for an influx of hundreds of thousands of people, and it went downhill fast. Now, that was a couple of years ago and I'd be happy to hear that they've improved. I'm no longer with Telstra - because of the reasons I've outlined above. Edit: I realised I have work's Telstra 4…

Those are quite poor speeds. I'm with Optus with a 4G connection and just did a speed test on my Galaxy S7 80Mbps down!! wow I was surprised to see this. I thought my home 30Mbps cable connection was good 20Mbps up, this was an even bigger shock. I'm only on about 2Mbps up on my home connection. 90ms latency from Adelaide to Sydney which seems pretty good too.

Wow! Where are you? Local congestion is obviously a massive factor with 4G speeds. I'm at my office in Melbourne's south eastern suburbs, where connections - everyone's, irrespective of telco - seem to be poor.

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by researcher11 »

rayiner wrote: post #30
Dylan16807 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming omnidirectional antennas. If you aim well enough, that finite spectrum is only shared by a handful of clients.

Why run a copper tube kilometers when a point to point microwave will be way cheaper?

Rain

Re: Telstra’s Gigabit Class LTE Network

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Post by Dylan16807 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #21
Dylan16807 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming omnidirectional antennas. If you aim well enough, that finite spectrum is only shared by a handful of clients.

You could go even further and construct some kind of copper tube to send your radio signals down.

Yes, having a lot of antennas on the base station is just like attaching a mile-long cable to your cell phone.
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