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Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM. Why is everyone so upset? Having the option to use DRM in native web APIs is not a bad thing.
>Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM. Uh, why not? All Netflix series are already getting pirated even with DRM.
"We didn't bother protecting our content, and yes, sales are down 25% year over year, but..."
Fired.
They really needed DRM to survive. It's great that they can run a sandbox in my computer so I can watch videos, something which wasn't possible with the open web standards. By the way, here's the list of titles which weren't pirated thanks to DRM: .
I don't get it. I can still make a recording of my screen can't I?
But yes, until they also build in the technology they have in PlayStations (Cinavia) to video cameras, that is the most obvious leak.
I don't like DRM, but I like binging Netflix in a corner on my laptop while I work. I've been doing it for years using Chrome with a fake user-agent to fool Netflix into thinking I'm on Windows (apparently that hasn't been needed for some time?) So...I'm torn, I guess. I'm glad Linux/Firefox can Netflix, but I'd like it if web standards were open and not patent encumbered. I guess it's a political issue and not a tec…
> I'm glad Linux/Firefox can Netflix, but I'd like it if web standards were open and not patent encumbered. The actual web standard is open. Netflix was one of the key players in making this an open extensible standard instead of it being an extension or plugin for browsers.
Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.
I thought that the only change was that the DRM mechanism was turned into an open standard. How is this worse than before? As someone that occasionally uses Linux, I think it's great that Netflix works there now. Previously, the audience on Linux wasn't worth the development effort for Netflix. Am I missing something? Is this a case where an open standard is a bad thing?
Yes. The bit where this is an "open standard" to implement completely closed, non-standard plugins, which cannot be implemented by reading the spec.
With this "open standard" any browser or OS not blessed by Hollywood can't have a full web experience.
And I take great issues with that.
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That's just playing word games. Netflix lobbied for EME so they could serve DRM'd video, end of story.
Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM. Why is everyone so upset? Having the option to use DRM in native web APIs is not a bad thing.
This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.
What Netflix is doing that hurts the web is opposing net neutrality now that they're big enough they can bargain for special treatment. This—on the other hand—provides a replacement for use cases which used poorly-supported, insecure, and battery-hungry proprietary plugins. I run Safari with no extensions and having this for Netflix and Amazon is fantastic. I trust Apple to patch security vulnerabilities and the brow…
I know you are completely right. But I'm still not happy about it and I will still complain about it.
The technical ineffectiveness of DRM isn't something that needs to be explained on HN, this is absolutely about business people and lawyers getting too much power without having the necessary technical understanding.
While I'm waiting for the solution on that, I'll continue watching torrented shows that are obviously Netflix screencaps.
Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.
Online video services get DRM added to browser in order to "protect content".
They really needed DRM to survive. It's great that they can run a sandbox in my computer so I can watch videos, something which wasn't possible with the open web standards. By the way, here's the list of titles which weren't pirated thanks to DRM: .
I don't get it. I can still make a recording of my screen can't I?
Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.
Dark days, indeed. Sacrificing the open web so some can watch movies.
Netflix video quality sucks on browsers anyway – at least for movies. Half of them seem to be limited to something which could only be described as "less than DVD quality", some noticeably so. That's the reality for the paying customer – for a “pirate”, most of the movies in HD quality are a quick web search away, without needing to install any programs.
You may also need to tweak your Netflix settings, since the default quality level is "Auto," rather than "High."
It may be surprising, but many people don't much notice the difference.