Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

Post by giancarlostoro » Wed, Mar 22, 2017, 8:07 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #210

emodendroket wrote: post #199

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I'm guessing (especially when you consider that OS X is in there) that it has more to do with the support burden and small number of people using Linux as a desktop OS than trying to get people to buy Windows.

So they make it run buggy in order to reduce the support burden??? Surely that makes for more support calls. I'd have much more respect for them if they just came clean and said "we hate linux users, if you want to use that OS don't use our products because we try our best to make them not work on linux". Look at what they did with Skype for example. At least then we'd know not to try their stuff.

Post by kayoone » Wed, Mar 22, 2017, 8:07 PM UTC

golfer wrote: post #252

rsweeney21 wrote: post #185

"Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding." - Hanlon's razor I worked as a Microsoft employee on the xbox.com website from 2007-2010. We didn't officially support any browsers on Linux because it represented We supplied a list of officially supported browsers to the customer support team. Any bugs on non-supported browsers would never get reported back to our team, so we'd never hear about them.…

Well, Microsoft often doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of their history of incredibly aggressive, borderline unethical behavior. Being a convicted monopolist tends to color people's attitudes to a company. Let alone something ridiculous like trying to destroy the open source movement in its nascent stages, stealing Google's search results, or running the completely insane Scroogled campaign. And all the o…

Post by jdmichal » Wed, Mar 22, 2017, 8:08 PM UTC

cname wrote: post #166

Rantenki wrote: post #74

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More likely something like: resolve_renderer_module(user_agent.os) where the osx/Windows ones are already loaded in RAM, but it has to try (and fail) to load the linux one every time somebody tries. This is classic Hanlon's razor stuff.

Is it possible that companies, teams within companies, and/or individuals might exploit "Hanlon's Razor" to their own benefit? It's easy to say "Oh, whoops" and often there's no easy way to prove incompetence vs malice. And because people are aware of this cliche/meme, they may be more susceptible to it. I wonder if people said "Hanlon's Razor" when they first heard about the VW emissions scandal. NOTE: I'm just thin…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 22, 2017, 8:10 PM UTC

toss1941 wrote: post #187

krylon wrote: post #176

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> I don't think I've ever seen a usable answer on that site. At least not from a Microsoft employee. Sadly, the majority of posts from Microsoft employees I have seen basically repeat the problem description, followed by "Did I understand that correctly?", sometimes people get generic advice like reboot their computer, make sure their system has all available updates installed, etc.

Saw someone call them out once as giving out "grandma-level advice", I felt it was accurate, no offense to grandmas of course.

Post by 21 » Wed, Mar 22, 2017, 8:11 PM UTC

cpg wrote: post #253

Microsoft did the same thing way back with CPUID .. when it was Intel, it worked well. Otherwise (AMD, Transmeta), they would use very inefficient operations instead of SSE (IIRC), slowing down benchmarks that used media (like players, etc) and Photoshop. This is from a distant life in the past, but I think it was not limited to use of SSE.