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Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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Just learned that: Most Popular Languages by Occupation For Sysadmin / DevOps no 1 is JavaScript For Data Scientist / Engineer no 1 is JavaScript

My instant takeaway: Does China have their own version of stack overflow or is it due to the firewall? That many more developers in India vs. China or is English just more commonly spoken in India?

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  We will publish additional analysis related to respondents’ disability status in the coming weeks.
As a student with a severely limiting physical disability, I'm looking forward to this. I'm really interested to see what roles those in my position are in.

Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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Javascript and Java reign supreme. No trendy wanky languages like the ones mentioned on here all the time will ever be up there. Companies just pretend they "use go" to attract the trendy people here, when in reality "use go" means "there was a project once that we used go for" and 99% of their code is javascript and java.

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I'm surprised to see "platforms" as Win: 41%, Desktop Linux: 33%, Mac: 18.4%. Presumably this question was about the machine you use to develop software on.

The reason I'm surprised has nothing to do with any advocacy. It's just that whenever I look around at a non-Apple dev conference in the US (Web, for example), it looks as though fewer than 1/5 of the machines are NON-Macs, while the answer to the question above is the inverse: fewer than 1/5 of devs use Macs. (Though multiple answers were allowed this still says that fewer than 1/5 use Macs.)

So, I'm wondering: Are StackOverflow and US dev conf attendees significantly different groups? (Ex: SO hobbyists very different from conference pros?) Or do devs usually install Desktop Linux on Mac hardware, and I don't realize that half of the Macs laptops I see are running Linux? Or do people use PC desktop hardware for development but use Mac laptops for portable use (ex: attending a conference, but they would still qualify as Mac users)? Or are all of the non-US conferences solid walls of PC hardware with so few Macs that they overwhelm the Mac usage in the US? Or have things changed significantly in the past few years? (I haven't been to a dev conference for a while.)

Or what? Presumably all of the above to some extent, but am I missing something big?

Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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Surprisingly a full 2.6% of Stack Overflow visitors identify as non male/female, of which a 0.5% transgender. Both numbers much higher than those for the general population. It would be interesting to see more information about this, looking forward to the follow-up article: "We will publish additional analysis related to respondents’ gender identities in the coming weeks."

Based on my experience both in developer communities and outside of them, I don't find that surprising. While it is evidently true that there are disproportionately more men in tech, it also seems to be true that there are more queer/trans/non-conforming people in tech.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are actually higher: assuming the choices are exclusive, the way they are worded it's not clear how transgender is intended to be represented in the results. Not everyone who is transgender sees their "trans" status as a distinct gender identity (i.e. the emphasis in "trans-woman" or "trans-man" doesn't have to fall on the "trans" aspect). I think a clearer distinction would have been a separate question "my gender identity matches the gender I was assigned at birth" (instead of distinguishing between male, female and "trans") but that might have overcomplicated things.

Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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Some observations. Wouldn't have thought of built-in help as a popular (47.1%) way of teaching yourself. Oracle usage only 16.5%, but I guess it makes sense considering the web developer proportion. CoffeeScript as the third most dreaded language, behind only two instances of Visual Basic. But reading the definition of "dreaded" in makes more sense. Sharepoint as the most dreaded platform, ha ha, no surprise there. C…

> Wouldn't have thought of built-in help as a popular (47.1%) way of teaching yourself.

The built-in help for eg Java, C# or Delphi is amazing. It starts with autocomplete, then a tooltip with a summary, and full details including examples are just an F1 away.

Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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post #14

I'm surprised to see "platforms" as Win: 41%, Desktop Linux: 33%, Mac: 18.4%. Presumably this question was about the machine you use to develop software on. The reason I'm surprised has nothing to do with any advocacy. It's just that whenever I look around at a non-Apple dev conference in the US (Web, for example), it looks as though fewer than 1/5 of the machines are NON-Macs, while the answer to the question above…

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Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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post #14

I'm surprised to see "platforms" as Win: 41%, Desktop Linux: 33%, Mac: 18.4%. Presumably this question was about the machine you use to develop software on. The reason I'm surprised has nothing to do with any advocacy. It's just that whenever I look around at a non-Apple dev conference in the US (Web, for example), it looks as though fewer than 1/5 of the machines are NON-Macs, while the answer to the question above…

Outside of US, very few people use macs compared to you. Here in euw even in a CS course, engineering class in a top university or hackathon in a big startup incubator I can see like 1 macbook every 30 standard notebooks.

Reason is simple: they are very overpriced for ours salaries (and I am in a first world country, I think their costs are prohibitive in places like India/Cina/etc) and - personal reason - as a webdev I can basically do everything I need in a 250$ old t430 with fedora, so I can't justify to spend like 10 times more just for a shinier piece of hw which is not even easy to upgrade.

Re: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017

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post #12

We will publish additional analysis related to respondents’ disability status in the coming weeks. As a student with a severely limiting physical disability, I'm looking forward to this. I'm really interested to see what roles those in my position are in.

Would love to read about your experiences, if you are willing to share :)
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