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What happened to tablet sales?

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Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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Just as a side note, we've never needed to upgrade the ipad air 2 nor any prior tablet from apple. We're of horror stories of devices slowing down or degrading with each iteration of ios so we've been lucky in not keeping them up to date. On the other hand its actually been a negative impact in regards to wanting to buy a iphone. Knowing that if apple ever force a update or accidently swipe a notification away we cou…

I'm in the same boat not upgrading OS version, but it does limit your app choices significantly.

With the CIA ios exploits out in the wild now, how can you really be comfortable using such an insecure version?

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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As counterpoint, I used my first generation iPad until I broke the screen last year. (It withstood more than a few drops as the corners attested before finally succumbing.) Granted, my use case wasn't overly intensive: mostly just web browsing and video viewing (Netflix, HBO Now, iTunes). My primary gripes are with iTunes and video storage management, and while that was more acute with the limited storage of the firs…

Can I asked something? Why are iPads popular? Genuine question. I will admit first that I also use an old iPad for watching YouTube, but that's because I run Linux on my surface pro 3, and YouTube sucks my battery dry faster than you can say sudo. But, the iPad is still too heavy to hold for extended periods, falls over all the time on its rubbish case if I keep it on the uneven bed, and I find the surface kickstand…

You probably do on your laptops or phone what others do on the iPad. it's also worth nothing how much more portable the iPad mini is than the 9.7" form factor.

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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I find reading on a tablet quite terrible. Your eyes get tired and use late at night delays melatonin production. I like the Kindle Paperwhite a lot more for reading non-technical books and magazines.

Can't light text on a black background get much dimmer than what you need to read paper/e-ink?

For me, it's still a pretty jarring experience. It really takes an e-ink display to be comfortable reading closely.

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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"The iPad 2 is still in use today," IDC Senior Analyst Jitesh Ubrani tells TechCrunch. “The [original] iPad Minis and Air are all still in use today. They were being supported by Apple until very recently. People have been hanging onto these devices and they’re finding that they work just as well as they did when they were released" It's simply true. I have a iPad 2 and iPad Air 2, and both run fine. The former still…

You are conflating several issues that have little to do with the topic of what happened to tablet sales e.g. Apple's iPhone sales drop is China is only tangentially related to tablet sales drop worldwide (fwiw I agree your diagnosis about lack of fashionable iPhone upgrades, particularly a new design. the other significant factor is spiking iPhone prices in international market due to exchange rate).

Tablet sales and upgrade patterns can't be directly compared to smartphones. Consumers upgrade their smartphones often because in key markets those purchases are subsidized (the single biggest factor in the iPhone's success was switching from a full price sale system of the original model to the subsidized system for the iPhone 3G). Tablets are more comparable to laptops/desktops. However iPad has even dropped below the Mac. Why is that? So back to the techcrunch article:

> part of the slow down in sales can be chalked up to user disappointment in the devices’ limitation following the initial excitement around the space... growing size of smartphone displays has gone a ways toward cannibalizing tablet sales, as well, limiting the need for a much larger device when so many handsets are now within the six-inch range. On the high end of the spectrum, convertible touchscreen Windows 10 devices have eaten into tablet market share, while Chromebook sales have begun to dominate the education market that tablet makers once saw as a key use case... Amazon marks a rare bright spot on that end of the spectrum, due to its relatively unique ability to subsidize costs as it positions Fire tablets as, essentially, content delivery devices...

When the iPad launched in '10 the iPhone was 3.5" and the laptops were big and bulky. In the following years that space for tablet growth was squeezed by large Android phablets and Macbook Airs (the 11" launched in a few months after the original iPad). Still the iPad, was proclaimed as the future of computing by Apple. It should have reached upwards to dethrone laptops/netbooks. The tablet problems are simple:

1) multitasking/multiwindow is basic on tablets and the UX is just not good enough, especially considering the disadvantages when compared to laptops/desktops with bigger screens

2) data/file management and sharing for projects spanning multiple persons and tools. iOS in particular is woefully lacking in this regard

3) poor input system. This is arguably the most critical factor. As long as a hardware QWERTY keyboard remains the most efficient way to provide text input then the laptop form factor, and OSes designed for that form factor, will remain dominant for productivity. An iPad with a hardware keyboard but without a mouse/trackpad is a sick UX joke resulting in arm fatigue.

More than anything else, TABLETS NEED A REVOLUTIONARY SOFTWARE KEYBOARD or INPUT SYSTEM. That should be Apple's or a YC startup's first priority.

(NB: tablets offer voice input, some actually decent, but that's obviously a nonstarter as general input in a noisy classroom, library, coffee shop, open office plan unless perhaps Apple can make a stenomask[1] fashionable. A revolutionary touch software keyboard still seems the best bet imo)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenomask

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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Tablet sales are lagging in America because manufacturers are not innovating. One of the top rated Android tablets today is the Nvidia Shield K1. It's a great tablet. It costs $200. You can use it to stream a very playable PC gaming experience via GeForce Now provided you have a solid 20 mbps connection. You can connect it to your television and use it as a console. It's 3 years old and still pretty rock-and-roll wei…

The nvidia tablet is still king of the tablet hill, despite its age. When the new one is released, I'm buying two.

I had the first 1, and managed to turn that into 4 through two recalls (all basically cosmetic flaws) that have all at this point died. one was killswitched, recovered and killswitched again and bricked. one is stuck in a bootloop after a cm10->cm11 auto upgrade. the other two's batteries failed and i soldered usb cables in their place and they have a second life in the back of my electric junk drawer.

I thought about buying a k1 tablet, but i really couldn't justify it as i have a one plus 3 that does almost everything a tablet did. and i can make calls on it and not feel like a goober.

i don't think there's another tablet in the pipe: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/11/rumored-follow-nvidi...

I have the first shield tv and its awesome. I use the g-force now service to stream witcher 3. I love streaming games. I used on-live back in the day, and was bummed when it failed. I lost like 10 games.

I did here that nvidia had a lot to do with the nintendo switch, but i don't care enough to vet that rumor, so i will jsut spread it anyway.

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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5 years ago I was given an iPad 2 by a friend who had received it as a gift and was never going to use it (I think he had had it sitting in a box for a year at that point already). I have never updated the OS and I use it for reading. Sure, it is a little bit bigger than I would like, and the screen is low rez, but it lets me read books for the entirety of even the longest flights. I have looked at getting a newer android tablet (nexus 7 style) but nothing is worth the money since I have a perfectly functional one already. There are pretty hard limits on the performance you need to deliver all kinds of content since no one is using a tablet for serious production, there are better tools that are actually fit to task. All they can do is up the battery lifetimes. Well, marginally better for the environment I guess.

I wonder how resale affects these markets.

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As counterpoint, I used my first generation iPad until I broke the screen last year. (It withstood more than a few drops as the corners attested before finally succumbing.) Granted, my use case wasn't overly intensive: mostly just web browsing and video viewing (Netflix, HBO Now, iTunes). My primary gripes are with iTunes and video storage management, and while that was more acute with the limited storage of the firs…

Can I asked something? Why are iPads popular? Genuine question. I will admit first that I also use an old iPad for watching YouTube, but that's because I run Linux on my surface pro 3, and YouTube sucks my battery dry faster than you can say sudo. But, the iPad is still too heavy to hold for extended periods, falls over all the time on its rubbish case if I keep it on the uneven bed, and I find the surface kickstand…

Offline Netflix and Amazon Video only works on tablets. Useful for flights. Otherwise, I'm not really sure what an iPad is for...

Re: What happened to tablet sales?

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The same going that happened with netbooks. Said as a happy eee901 owner and user.

Ah, that brings back some fond memories! I still think there is a market for a netbook-type device, a cheap, small laptop with good battery life.

But I guess that niche is now occupied by Chromebooks (which is sad, because Chromebooks are surprisingly expensive here in Germany).

Edit: There are still netbooks being produced, HP makes one, IIRC.

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