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Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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Post by ClassyJacket »

kingnight wrote: post #20
kenshi wrote: post #7

Personally I think its nice to see this kind of creation tool decoupled from a social network. I am hoping it can take Vine like videos, which I can keep and redistribute in a method of my own choosing.

Ditto. I loved using Vine to create little personal vignettes that I could share via Messages. I imagine this will come with a Messages App though the UX around those integrations is terrible the standalone app will be enough.

You can still use Vine to do that. In fact that's all it does now.

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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Post by threeseed »

magic_beans wrote: post #15
vinverma wrote: post #2

Is this the basis for a new camera driven OS?

What exactly does "camera driven OS" mean?

I assume it meant an augmented reality centric OS.

Not necessarily the stupidest thing in the world if you combine it with machine learning.

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Post by tambourine_man »

kenshi wrote: post #7

Personally I think its nice to see this kind of creation tool decoupled from a social network. I am hoping it can take Vine like videos, which I can keep and redistribute in a method of my own choosing.

I agree, but I think it's intended to be shared on Messages primarily, which I would consider to be a social network.

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Post by Sidetalker »

tambourine_man wrote: post #23
kenshi wrote: post #7

Personally I think its nice to see this kind of creation tool decoupled from a social network. I am hoping it can take Vine like videos, which I can keep and redistribute in a method of my own choosing.

I agree, but I think it's intended to be shared on Messages primarily, which I would consider to be a social network.

I'm interested in why you consider Messages a social network? To me, Messages is an iteration on MMS, analogous to the transition from SMS to MMS.

Messages can only be used by Apple customers, but this is not indicative of a social network and would detract from the value of a legitimate social network.

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Post by ourcat »

I think one of the underlying reasons for creating an app which people show and contort their faces to, is to help train facial recognition systems.

Sure, easy to do with lots of photos. But when you've got the model in front of your camera, for hours, pulling all sorts of faces, that data is going to become pretty useful.

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Post by Mikeb85 »

Sidetalker wrote: post #25
tambourine_man wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I think it's intended to be shared on Messages primarily, which I would consider to be a social network.

I'm interested in why you consider Messages a social network? To me, Messages is an iteration on MMS, analogous to the transition from SMS to MMS. Messages can only be used by Apple customers, but this is not indicative of a social network and would detract from the value of a legitimate social network.

Sure it is. It's no different than Facebook Messenger in practice.

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Post by erikpukinskis »

Sidetalker wrote: post #25
tambourine_man wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I think it's intended to be shared on Messages primarily, which I would consider to be a social network.

I'm interested in why you consider Messages a social network? To me, Messages is an iteration on MMS, analogous to the transition from SMS to MMS. Messages can only be used by Apple customers, but this is not indicative of a social network and would detract from the value of a legitimate social network.

iMessage is not fully interoperable with MMS or SMS. Many messages are sent in a mangled form to non-iPhone users. If you deactivate an iMessage account, Apple will just sent group messages intended for that account into the ether, rather than sending them via SMS. There are lots of quirks that make it not fully interoperable.

It's exactly what we criticized Microsoft for in "embrace and extend" back in the 90s.

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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Post by tambourine_man »

Sidetalker wrote: post #25
tambourine_man wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I think it's intended to be shared on Messages primarily, which I would consider to be a social network.

I'm interested in why you consider Messages a social network? To me, Messages is an iteration on MMS, analogous to the transition from SMS to MMS. Messages can only be used by Apple customers, but this is not indicative of a social network and would detract from the value of a legitimate social network.

We would have to agree on a definition of social network, but I'd argue that being inclusive (not requiring a specific hardware) is not a prerequisite.
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