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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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What are you talking about? There is now 4 http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

The Pro is one line, there are just two screen sizes. The 9.7" Pro has the same processor as the larger pro and has compatibility with the pencil. The new 9.7" non-pro has the lower end chip and no pencil.

The 12.9" apparently doesn't have the same TruTone screen (at least according to Apple's own comparison chart) as the 9.7".

This is not simply a size difference.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

It's quite obvious the Pixel is the "flagship" Android Google phone. And Pixel C is the "flagship" Android tablet. The pixel is advertised everywhere as a Google phone. Who makes it doesn't really come up in their product communication much. And the 'flagship' label is literally in the title of the Pixel products on Amazon. And on the website it's called "Pixel, phone by Google". > People buy a low end Android phone…

Everyone knows that Flagship is a cheese.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I'm 31 and I use my iPad Air 2 constantly. Great for reading textbooks/papers, as a second screen for TV shows, or for streaming (whether at home or on trips). It is very much a consumption device, though -- the most I "create" with it are short emails and blog post drafts.

Same here, I use it as a consumption device to stream video and read RSS mainly. If I need to create something I have a laptop, so I see the iPad as different use case that I have no intention of merging (such as with the Surface)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I use my iPad 2 every day. I bought it in 2011, so it's basically 6 years old and battery is still in great quality. I disabled a few animations/transitions and such, and I run iOS 10. It's not as fast as it used to be (newer iOS not being optimized for slower iPads) but it's still perfectly usable for reading books on the Kindle app, some surfing etc. When I am not using it, I tend to put it in Airplane mode.

>but it's still perfectly usable for reading books on the Kindle app Reading books on a low-res display sounds terrible. Why not just buy a Kindle if you read a lot?

I use the Galaxy S2 Tab for reading, and it's marvellous. Especially at night with the dark scheme, thanks to the AMOLED display.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Recently dropped by the local Apple store here. I was in the market for a laptop. They had about 4 different Macbook variants. Plus some older Macbook Pro models with HDD. Others with non-retina screens. A few years ago, it was pretty simple: you bought the Macbook Pro for serious work, Macbook Air for portability. Now it's just confusing. Like Dell or Lenovo.

Its about the same level of complexity now as it was say around 2010

Same choices too - Macbook/Macbook Air/Macbook Pro

Hardest part for most buyers was determining what the spec differences would mean for them and if the price difference was worth it. Same issue now

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

I've never heard such a confusion when it comes to TV purchases. Life is imperfect and changing products require a little research. You can't just go to the store and buy the best socks either; if you want the best you got to do research. Thems the breaks.

I think that confusion is definitely there. Probably not worth mentioning it since noone can understand the gibberish they call TV appliance numbers.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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You missed one, I just opened their home and this ad appeared "Buy iPhone 7 (PRODUCT)RED™ Special Edition" (4,7in , 5,5in), order starting at 8:01 a.m. PDT on 3.24. > Every purchase contributes to the Global Fund to support HIV/AIDS programs and help deliver an AIDS-free generation.

They've had those for ages, though...

Nope, the Red iPhones have literally just been released. They've been available in iPod Touch for ages.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I just hope for the one big presentation where they refresh iMac, Mac mini, Mac Pro, and maybe some "next big thing" for desktop PCs. And for the love of god, if they do this please have some USB-A ports...

USB-A is dead.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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So, because they aren't sane enough to figure out a naming scheme that makes sense, I have to waste hours or days looking at reviews just to understand what the difference is between the models? From what I could understand it's possible that the X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that. Also, why do they ask me if my laptop is for work or home? What if I use it for both…

Coming from the PC universe, the process is different. 1. Define: You first decide what you actually want 2. Search: Your search is entirely based on value for money (you have defined value before) 3. Decide: You read reviews and decide which one to take 4. Buy: Find the cheapest offer Not once should you have to care about the name of the product, it simply does not matter. There should be more than enough databases…

If it doesn't matter, they should pick easier ones.

They lost at least myself as a customer. I doubt I'm the only one on the planet who didn't buy a PC because he couldn't figure out the offer.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Well, thems WASN'T the breaks with Apple for a long time, and they did quite well. The person you replied to was trying to make the argument that a vendor can sell more product if they make the hierarchy of quality more clear to the consumer. Saying 'things are imperfect, as a consumer you just have to deal with it' doesn't really address his argument.

It addresses it with counter examples that indicate that a "hierarchy of quality" is not something that really exists in consumer products. The fact that so many companies chose not to make the hierarchy clear is an indication that such a hierarchy isn't valuable to them. Look at the luxury car sector. https://www.audiusa.com/models#sedans/ Can you tell the quality by its naming convention? I can't. I can sort of ass…

Car companies (at least European ones) tend to be pretty transparent about this: - Audi (example): letter (car/SUV/race car)+ number (quality: 1-cheap, 8-luxury) - BMW: first number is a quality class, two numbers is the Engine size. - Mercedes: first letter is a quality class, number is the engine.

Other luxury consumer goods use pretty similar schemes, e.g. Audio gear (e.g. bang + olufsen: the higher the number the better, with some number of meaningless zeroes added depending on fashion).

One observation might be that these companies all have halo products that are used to anchor/promote the volume offerings that drive revenue (e.g. The Audi r8 and the a3, the 90k speakers and the 1k set)

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