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Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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So. Everyone seems to be doing this. Even FB Messenger has a huge button I keep fatfingering that pulls up a camera. Once already I got dirty looks because it looked like I was about to photograph a pretty girl in a short skirt. It's well beyond redundant to say that the whole thing is network effects and demographics, but -- I basically love this idea and really want it to catch on. But I'm in my mid-thirties; all m…

Do you know what would make this idea more approachable for you and your friends? Maybe more serious/relatable filters and stickers, easier to use, or not too self focused? I'd be interested to know.

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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I don't get the comparison to Snap/Insta Stories. Isn't the whole point of those that you add to them over 24 hours and they disappear? This just creates little videos/gifs you can share on other social networks.

Both those apps have some tools in their camera that make it easy to do text/scribbles/filters on photos and video. Some stuff like timestamps and speed are even proof-like because "everyone" knows how the app works so it isn't something you could easily fake without photoshopping. If you've been on reddit lately you'll know how popular pictures of text are.

True but those tools have nothing to do with the 'story' concept. The iOS camera already does filters and markup of text/scribbles. I just find it odd that all the tech press are comparing it to something it's not trying to compete with.

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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post #11

So. Everyone seems to be doing this. Even FB Messenger has a huge button I keep fatfingering that pulls up a camera. Once already I got dirty looks because it looked like I was about to photograph a pretty girl in a short skirt. It's well beyond redundant to say that the whole thing is network effects and demographics, but -- I basically love this idea and really want it to catch on. But I'm in my mid-thirties; all m…

Do you know what would make this idea more approachable for you and your friends? Maybe more serious/relatable filters and stickers, easier to use, or not too self focused? I'd be interested to know.

Eh, I want my friends to be there. The damn network effect.

I would soften the radical emphasis on the camera. In the times of MSN Messenger and while Gmail chat was an actual thing, we used to really use status lines to communicate mood and such. What sucks about Facebook and Twitter is that you can't use it for that kind of throwaway social-being-together-online. Instead, it's always about engineering an identity.

I'd love to have something like a 12 hours-lived feed where I didn't have to worry that me-in-the-very-near-future doesn't feel well represented by that.

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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post #11

So. Everyone seems to be doing this. Even FB Messenger has a huge button I keep fatfingering that pulls up a camera. Once already I got dirty looks because it looked like I was about to photograph a pretty girl in a short skirt. It's well beyond redundant to say that the whole thing is network effects and demographics, but -- I basically love this idea and really want it to catch on. But I'm in my mid-thirties; all m…

Do you know what would make this idea more approachable for you and your friends? Maybe more serious/relatable filters and stickers, easier to use, or not too self focused? I'd be interested to know.

Addendum: I googled "Mitsein" and this is brilliant. What I want is a self-erasing Twitter-like that knows this:

"The term "Being-with" refers to an ontological characteristic of the human being, that it is always already[8] with others of its kind. This assertion is to be understood not as a factual statement about an individual, that he or she is at the moment in spatial proximity to one or more other individuals. Rather it is a statement about the being of every human, that in the structures of its being-in-the-world one finds an implicit reference to other humans. We all live with others, and in fact we could not live without them. Humans have been called (by others, not by Heidegger) "ultrasocial"[9] and "obligatorily gregarious."[10] Without others of our kind we could not survive. Heidegger, from his phenomenological perspective, calls this feature of human life "Being-with" (Mitsein), and says it is essential to being human.[11] We are inauthentic when we fail to recognize how much and in what ways how we think of ourselves and how we habitually behave is influenced by our social surroundings. We are authentic when we pay attention to that influence and decide for ourselves whether to go along with it or not. Living entirely without such influence, however, is not an option."

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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Is this the basis for a new camera driven OS?

What exactly does "camera driven OS" mean?

It's like iOS, bro! With just cameras, bro! You can use the camera to do messaging, bro - and, like, do shopping with cameras and, like, play games with the camera and stuff. /s

Re: Apple offers its own take on Snapchat and Instagram Stories

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post #7

Personally I think its nice to see this kind of creation tool decoupled from a social network. I am hoping it can take Vine like videos, which I can keep and redistribute in a method of my own choosing.

Ditto. I loved using Vine to create little personal vignettes that I could share via Messages.

I imagine this will come with a Messages App though the UX around those integrations is terrible the standalone app will be enough.

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