Its ridiculous the amount of energy and effort you have to waste in order to find a product that you don't suspect as being counterfeit on Amazon these days. The other day, I wanted a super bright flashlight that ran on AAA batteries and was of decent quality and price. I had to pour over the millions of listed flashlights, most looking physically identical, with the exception of the brand name printed on the flashli…
I only buy when is sold directly "by amazon" if the seller is not amazon then all bets are off.
Sellers printing counterfeit books and selling under Amazon's brand
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Re: Sellers printing counterfeit books and selling under Amazon's brand
#32I knew the shine was off the rose when I made the hike to MicroCenter, in lieu of two-day shipping, to avoid counterfeits of an item.
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#33As a "Content Creator" and frequent advocate for U.S. Copyright Reform, this is one of the few instances where I think the full willful infringement penalty is absolutely justified. There's only a paper thin "Well they didn't inspect every book!" defense, which immediately falls apart when Amazon is making money by way of the transactions and doing market harm to the actual Copyright holder. It's not "incidental" inf…
Do you also advocate that eBay should verify every item it sells is not counterfeit?
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google is doing the digital version: https://www.google.com/search?q=python+for+kids+pdf First result. Google docs. Free book. Edit: Not sure if modded down for pointing out Google is pirating the book in nearly the same way as Amazon (HN loves Google, it can do no wrong) or if it's because I linked to Google's pirate link (Oh no! You're bankrupting the author, dirty commenter!).
The difference is that Google isn't pirating the book. It is being hosted on Google Docs. This is no different than if someone put the PDF on Dropbox and made it public. It isn't Google's pirate link. It is a link to a pirated file that just happens to be hosted on Google Docs. The difference here is that Amazon is actually printing the pirated book. Google is just hosting a file that happens to be made publicly view…
I'm not sure I personally see much difference. In both cases, the hosting corporation is reproducing a pirated file. One does so physically and one does so on an electronic screen, but both processes are automated piracy.
Re: Sellers printing counterfeit books and selling under Amazon's brand
#35As a "Content Creator" and frequent advocate for U.S. Copyright Reform, this is one of the few instances where I think the full willful infringement penalty is absolutely justified. There's only a paper thin "Well they didn't inspect every book!" defense, which immediately falls apart when Amazon is making money by way of the transactions and doing market harm to the actual Copyright holder. It's not "incidental" inf…
Do you also advocate that eBay should verify every item it sells is not counterfeit?
If it passes through eBay's hands, then I would.
Re: Sellers printing counterfeit books and selling under Amazon's brand
#36As a "Content Creator" and frequent advocate for U.S. Copyright Reform, this is one of the few instances where I think the full willful infringement penalty is absolutely justified. There's only a paper thin "Well they didn't inspect every book!" defense, which immediately falls apart when Amazon is making money by way of the transactions and doing market harm to the actual Copyright holder. It's not "incidental" inf…
Do you also advocate that eBay should verify every item it sells is not counterfeit?
I was under the impression that "under Amazon's brand" meant that the item is being "sold by Amazon" rather than a merchant using Amazon as a platform.
I think eBay should verify items that are being sold by eBay, and Amazon should verify items that are being sold by Amazon, but eBay shouldn't be responsible for items being sold VIA eBay, nor should Amazon be responsible for items being sold VIA Amazon.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you also advocate that eBay should verify every item it sells is not counterfeit?
If it passes through eBay's hands, then I would.
Ok, then you are saying the shipper should verify every product they ship?
I mean, Fulfilled by Amazon is providing a storefront and fulfillment services for things people ship to them. If you are making the argument they should verify every item they ship then that should extend to all fulfillment providers, no?
Don't get me wrong, I think FBA and 3rd party sellers are a huge mistake for Amazon as a whole. I just disagree that the onus should be on Amazon to make sure the items people fulfill using their services are not fakes.
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#38I guess Amazon's DRM system can't detect off-by-one-page?
I don't think this has anything to do with DRM. As Pollock mentions, they release their books DRM free.
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#39Its ridiculous the amount of energy and effort you have to waste in order to find a product that you don't suspect as being counterfeit on Amazon these days. The other day, I wanted a super bright flashlight that ran on AAA batteries and was of decent quality and price. I had to pour over the millions of listed flashlights, most looking physically identical, with the exception of the brand name printed on the flashli…
Yeah. A variation on my own story: http://seliger.com/2017/01/09/tools-continued-careful-buy-am... . It's definitely changed my buying habits. For example, I just got a Fujitsu SnapScan... from Office Depot. There's no way I'm buying a moderately expensive electronic item from Amazon anymore.
Agreed that Amazon should make it clearer when it is the actual seller, but, in your example, you knowingly bought from a third party. Why would this affect your future purchases from Amazon when Amazon is the seller?
Re: Sellers printing counterfeit books and selling under Amazon's brand
#40There's no way to report a counterfeit on Amazon unless you're claiming a violation of your own IP rights. I've complained about fake solid state relays. There are lots of fake "Fotek" solid state relays. UL has noticed.[1] The fakes are usually marked with much higher amp ratings than they can handle safely. Look at this "100 amp" fake "Fotek" relay on Amazon.[2] Fotek doesn't even make a 100 amp relay in that packaging. [3] 100 amps requires bigger terminals.
These things tend to fail into the ON state, which is not good. Or they melt down or catch fire under full load.
[1] http://www.ul.com/newsroom/publicnotices/ul-warns-of-solid-s... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Commoon-FOTEK-24V-380V-SSR-100DA-Modu... [3] http://www.fotek.com.tw/center1.asp?classNo=4&class2_sn=16