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Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

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Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

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post #4

How are you going to deal with zoning? Generally the big problem with tiny houses is that while they're relatively cheap to make they're not allowed by existing zoning.

a good service add-on would be help with getting one installed in various jurisdictions. i.e., what exactly is the process to get one installed on a plot of land in unincorporated Los Angeles County? (or wherever) who do i need to call and permit in order to not get kicked off my own land?

right now, that process is completely opaque and mysterious, and people who have done it don't seem to want to share.

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#24
https://boxouse.com/collections/buy/products/boxouse-standar...

Those photos don't really fit the "sleek finish out" and "premium materials" description. The tub looks dirty, the bed slats are all wonky, and it looks overall extremely cheap.

It's certainly not $20k worth of add-ons to the barebones bit (https://boxouse.com/collections/buy/products/boxouse-barebon...).

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#25

I love the idea, but as-is, I think your product could more attractive if you hired an interior designer to help with the sample pictures/overall product "image". Attractive product, unattractive design. There's nothing there to make me want your product over another company doing the same thing with more emphasis on design.

Here's some photos of work in progress: https://goo.gl/photos/N6jiAo9696QJG6KU8

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#26
There was a shipping container home on Grand Designs (what a show!) that looked absolutely breathtaking: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/24/1411571780563_wps_...

I think a bit of sprucing up (with wood and a sound paint-job) would go a long way to remove that whiff of trailer park that I get from your landing page.

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#27
post #16

I have a friend who tried this and found that he had to take a crane operating class just so he could move/transport the shipping container. It's kind of cool to think that you could live anywhere in the world that has an open port, but how the heck do you get it off a boat in Chile or Ireland the same that's cheap and freeing?

A few years ago we shipped a fab shop complete with a plasma cnc from Texas to a farm in rural Kenya, the whole process was surprisingly easy and I discovered that farm life is way more fun with a plasma cnc!

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#28
post #7

What do you think happens to pricing at scale?

Eventually, we'll make tiny homes as affordable as other factory-built products: car prices, if not cheaper.

How does that work, ad your main component, a shipping container, doesn't really scale much?

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#29
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eventually, we'll make tiny homes as affordable as other factory-built products: car prices, if not cheaper.

How does that work, ad your main component, a shipping container, doesn't really scale much?

At thousands of units per month, we're probably off of shipping containers and onto something lighter and cheaper:)

Re: Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) – Shipping-container homes

#30
post #4

How are you going to deal with zoning? Generally the big problem with tiny houses is that while they're relatively cheap to make they're not allowed by existing zoning.

Many places treat these types of dwellings as mobile homes, and there is probably no form of development that is more widely banned than mobile home parks.

Even putting one of these on your own lot as an accessory structure is going to be very difficult in much of the country.

These rules are all legally codified class discrimination, and is very much largely about middle class single family homeowners keeping out what they call "undesirables".

In their worldview, "undesirables" can include anything from a mixed use building with commercial on first floor and an apartment on top, to turning a single family home into a duplex, but there is nothing more detested by these folks than mobile home parks.

It's an American caste system and it leads to unnecessary high housing prices. Very broadly, America doesn't want to invest in fixing social problems and there is a big focus on just moving the problem to other areas. The counter-productive part of this is that high housing costs drain resources from families and that induced poverty state leads to the social problems that are trying to be hidden in the first place.

Zoning is in need of serious reform, it is possible to go up against it and it is possible to win. I have, but it wasn't easy, and you really need public opinion on your side.

Market positioning can make the difference, and there is opportunity for things to change due to the bad economic position many towns find themselves in. Many places simply can't afford their snobbery anymore.

The rebranding happening with the tiny home movement has a chance at breaking through this and I hope that it does.

I would love to develop a piece of land with a group of affordable small houses but it's a total non starter in my area.

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