iPad 9.7‑inch • Hacker News Board

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:59 PM UTC

nkkollaw wrote: post #227

steeleduncan wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is that the difference between 13", 15" and 17" laptops is easily grasped by even the least knowledgeable customer. It takes no time to figure which product fits your needs best. The difference between the 9.7" iPad and the 9.7" iPad pro is not intuitive, at least to me. If it is not obvious how different products serve different needs, then you aren't actually expanding the market your product appe…

One is Pro, the other one isn't. Do you need a better screen with the stylus? If yes, iPad Pro, else iPad. I mean, this is kind of ridiculous. All beers, wines, sodas come from bottles that are exactly the same size, how do you know if you like Budweiser or Heineken.

I actually find that it's really hard to pick a beer when I'm confronted with all the options: it would be a lot easier if a store just carried a lager and IPA and a stout (provided that the said beers were actually good)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by r00fus » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:59 PM UTC

MR4D wrote: post #308

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Agreed. I thought the best way would be differentiate on features. Pro should be: - wifi+LTE - more storage - pen and/or cover keyboard included - faster CPU - multiscreen capability (connect to mouse and monitor with "desktop" interface) for truly replacing my desktop Regular iPad should be wifi only, and not come with a pen.

It's almost that way - just that you can get the regular iPad with LTE, too.

Honestly, I wish they'd instead make all the iPads "pencil" compatible.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by jccalhoun » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:00 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I don't have an ipad but an android tablet. I use it daily. Sit on the couch watching tv, play candy crush or something, and I do almost all my leisure reading on it.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ghaff » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:00 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

Not really. I have the big iPad Pro that I often use around the house but admittedly not daily. (It is essentially my control panel for YouTube and Netflix casting to my TV though.) ADDED: Since I got a couple of Chromebooks, I find I often grab one of them if I'm going to be doing a lot of typing--e.g. for searches.

But an old iPad 3 is my go to device for planes. Video, games, reading (because I don't want to carry a Kindle in addition to a tablet.) I actually got one of the cheap Kindle Fires to checkout for travel but I ended up going back to the iPad because I like it better.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by njharman » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

> it makes it harder to buy.

I think you mean, "It makes it harder to decide to buy." A hugely important distinction and the point of having few models. (limiting decision points/places to 2nd think do I really need a new ipad)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

internet2000 wrote: post #257

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Never thought I'd see the day where the argument against Apple is that they have too much choice.

That might be because satisfied people tend to be quieter about a product than dissatisfied ones.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ldehaan » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:05 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

All day long, i have several tablets actually, but my main tablet is a custom rom android tab s2 on tmobile.

I have tmuxinator, tasker, tasker ssh, automagic, web alert xp, csploit, hackers keyboard, (linode,aws,google) service mgmt apps, openconnect, ms rdp, hackers keyboard, AIDA ide, pagerduty, and so much more

I regularly manage linux/windows systems from anywhere on my tablet.

I approve code changes and make code changes

My tasker and automagic tasks are around server alerts, and issues, and automatically connect to servers with issues by grabbing hostname from pagerduty alert with automagic, logging in and running checks or if its a known server its calling about.

back to the batcave!

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by roflchoppa » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:06 PM UTC

This feels like the release of the "the new iPad" which was after the iPad two, but housed a Retina display, internals were the same if I recall correctly.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by rconti » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:10 PM UTC

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I am utterly confused. There was the iPad, then the Mini, then the Air, then the Pro.. and now I look at this, and 9.7" sounds fairly large ("normal" iPad size?) but the price is surprisingly cheap? No idea. closes window

I've got about 6 tablets and never use any of them anyway. I hate the user experience. I see no case where I'd rather have a tablet than my phone or my 6 year old Macbook Air.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by pwthornton » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 5:11 PM UTC

rconti wrote: post #359

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I am utterly confused. There was the iPad, then the Mini, then the Air, then the Pro.. and now I look at this, and 9.7" sounds fairly large ("normal" iPad size?) but the price is surprisingly cheap? No idea. closes window I've got about 6 tablets and never use any of them anyway. I hate the user experience. I see no case where I'd rather have a tablet than my phone or my 6 year old Macbook Air.

Surfing the Internet, reading ebooks and watching videos are all things an iPad would do much better, particularly anything that would benefit from a hiDPI screen.