iPad 9.7‑inch • Hacker News Board

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Post by ianai » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:51 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #249

throwanem wrote: post #231

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Call it a historical irony: those in the generation which can afford to retire have generally built their lives so closely around their work that, without it, they can find nothing to do; meanwhile, those of us who have plenty of ideas for how we'd spend such a vast amount of economically secure free time will mostly never be able to afford it.

When the lotto jackpot reaches around $500 million, I'll spend $5 on tickets (it happens maybe once a year). It's easily worth it for the few days I get to dream about setting up the ultimate workshop or being able to travel to find the greatest teachers. I'd also buy a nice watch.

We do the same things!

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:53 PM UTC

jlebrech wrote: post #115

coldtea wrote: post #72

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Because the only thing stopping people from using them is the lack of an IDE? Or because programmers would take well to having to program on the iPad? Or because programmers are not a rounding error when talking about "everyone"?

I said everyone

Well, they need to do a lot of things to have everyone, including programmers, use it.

It's not like adding an IDE is the last thing holding it from being 24x7 PC machine for everyone.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by taude » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:54 PM UTC

Larrikin wrote: post #187

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

I jumped ship from iPads once I bought an 11" MB AIR. This ended me getting an email on the iPad, reading it, then deciding I wanted a keyboard to respond.

I do miss the simplicity for watching videos on flights, though.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by methehack » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:54 PM UTC

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Been wondering the same thing. It's one of the my favorite stories from the Walter Isacson bio. After listening to all the product mgrs for like 3 days in all day meetings describe their 20+ hardware products, he draws a 2x2. Labels one axis "consumer/professional" the other "laptop/desktop" and says "you get four products". Clarity in product offerings means you know who you are; the inverse is also true.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by davidsawyer » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:55 PM UTC

wietsehage wrote: post #202

Starts making a lot more sense when you try to forsee the future product lineup: # Was iPad Mini 2 (7.9) iPad Mini 4 (7.9) iPad Air 2 (9.7) iPad Pro (9.7) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook Air (13) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15) # Becomes iPad (9.7) iPad Pro (10.5) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15)

What about the iPad Mini 4? That's still currently in their offering.

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Post by DoodleBuggy » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:55 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

Exact same situation I observe, though I know a lot of parents who are instead opting for a Kindle Fire for their kids since it's much cheaper to replace and it's mostly used for videos and simple games anyway.

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Post by Infinitesimus » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:56 PM UTC

mulletbum wrote: post #335

alasdair_ wrote: post #317

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I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

Pixel is mass market, Nexus is not. Only enthusiasts know that Nexus was a precursor to the Pixel so that comparison will probably never happen to the average consumer. Heck Google even avoids saying the Pixel runs Android

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Post by nkkollaw » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:56 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #288

nkkollaw wrote: post #239

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I don't know, I tried switching to PCs for a while, I couldn't get how their naming works. I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/

You just look at the hardware and read reviews. There isn't really a sliding scale for PCs, that's the awesome thing about manufacturers that let you customize. Doing a lot of gaming or modelling? Better graphics card. Running shitloads of processes? Better ram. Better processor. Extra HDD, or SSD, or optical drive? Etc.

So, because they aren't sane enough to figure out a naming scheme that makes sense, I have to waste hours or days looking at reviews just to understand what the difference is between the models? From what I could understand it's possible that the X67L is a good laptop, the X67LX is a crappy low-cost plastic netbook. How dumb is that.

Also, why do they ask me if my laptop is for work or home? What if I use it for both (which I do)? It doesn't make any sense.

I bought the new MacBook Pro mostly because of macOS, but also because I couldn't figure out how PC name their products, nor why they have to have 50 different barely-different models.

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Post by ianai » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:57 PM UTC

leggomylibro wrote: post #152

dvcrn wrote: post #116

I was kind of hoping for a revamped 12" MacBook but looks like we didn't get one. I wonder if this bump is already the usual spring revamp or if something else will come in April

Seriously; everyone is talking about jumping ship from Apple's products, all doom and gloom, but I'm coming from the opposite direction. I do not like or use Apple products unless my work strenuously requires me to. But the dearth of offerings in high-quality laptops under 13.3" is astonishing. While I personally prefer the 10.1" form factor, I think that Apple is onto something with pushing a 12" 'daily driver' mode…

Where were you in 2003 when you could get a PowerBook 12? It had the same footprint as an 8.5"X11" sheet of paper and a full OS.

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Post by nsxwolf » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 4:58 PM UTC

This might get me back into iPads. I had a 4th gen, and it broke right around when I transitioned into the Plus sized iPhones. Spending $500 on a new iPad didn't seem like it was all that necessary considering my phone now did an OK job replacing it.

But at $329 it's a lot more attractive.