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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Starts making a lot more sense when you try to forsee the future product lineup: # Was iPad Mini 2 (7.9) iPad Mini 4 (7.9) iPad Air 2 (9.7) iPad Pro (9.7) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook Air (13) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15) # Becomes iPad (9.7) iPad Pro (10.5) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15)

You're missing the iPad Mini 2 in "was", that was discontinued today

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

It's still not that bad. It's always a version number (ex., 7), the following version they add an 'S' (ex., 7S), then the following version they will increase the version number (ex., 8). "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. I currently own a Huawei Y6II, which I read is a clone of the P9. No idea what it means, what…

> "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less.

It's also a smaller phone, just like how the Plus is larger and costs more, but isn't any faster. The name or price of SE doesn't imply lower end at all, they've even removed the number so you don't know which one it's comparable to.

I agree it's not awful, just that it's slipping.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I'm a dev and I enjoy it. Though it kinda sucks when I can't connect to an external monitor at home, have yet to buy any dongles for that. I'm kinda curious who finds themselves needing more memory, and for what purpose. No doubt more can be helpful, but having 16 hasn't really ever felt slow to me. Even when running multiple virtual machines.

You run multiple virtual machines simultaneously and 16GB of RAM doesn't feel slow to you? They must have seriously optimized the hardware to the point that the RAM goes farther. Running multiple VMs on my 2015 MBP with 16GB RAM is a nonstarter. How much memory are you devoting to each VM, and how much do you allocate for overhead on the host system? I'm spoiled though - these days I spend most of my time on a machin…

As someone who has a similar desktop (128gb RAM w/ 12 core 3.3ghz Xeon Mac Pro) and the aforementioned late 2016 MBP w/ touchbar, I can definitively state you're being hyperbolic.

Last week I noticed I had Android Studio, Xcode 8.3b4, Xcode, IntelliJ, VMWare w/ Windows 7 Enterprise running Simplicity Studio and IAR Embedded Workbench, and Adobe Photoshop all at once. I was happily running along just fine without realizing I hadn't closed anything while switching tasks until Google Docs started consuming 6gb of RAM in a single browser tab.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

Its nice to give consumers choice, but it puts extereme pressure on Apple to commit to their things works across every apple product policy. Most of loyal [non dev] apple consumers count on this.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

iPads are absolutely fantastic for children, not even kidding... Between Guided Access and Restrictions, I can hand an iPad to my two year old and not have to worry. Plus then throw on high quality children's apps (most of which are educational) and YouTube Kids, and you have a wonderful platform for children. Parents could do much worse than to hand their kids an iPad. Certainly can be more engaging than throwing th…

And with a $329 price-point it's pretty easy to justify, especially if a $30 case can do a decent job at protecting it from drops. There's a ton of quality educational games on mobile platforms, my daughter loves playing stuff with the PBS Kids characters on her Fire HD but I get really tired dealing with all the arbitrary restrictions that get added by FreeTime (absolutely NO in-app purchases, even if an adult would authorize them - she has a few games with ads that I simply cannot remove because of this).

I've been wanting to get an iPad for her instead for a while, but if I'm spending more than the $140 it cost for the Fire I'd like to get a "full-sized" tablet anyway - so the new iPad hits a sweet spot for me personally.

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If I had a dollar for every time I've seen a kid at a restaurant playing on their IPad while the family eats...

So terrible... what would you do, not allow children to have fun?

I teach that the meal is the moment when fun can be had through social interaction. I entirely ban communication and entertainment device at the meal table. But then I'm French, so I don't know what the custom generally is in the USA - from my experience there I understand that the daily family meals are not considered such a sacred ritual but I only have anecdotal samples.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Sure, but he cut stuff like printers, cameras, and other crazy crap they used to make. Even when he was still alive they had different-sized iPods, iPads, and more. Computers have always come in different sizes: 13", 15", and 17". What is the difference between a 13" and a 15"? Does it make it harder to buy? Perhaps, but you wouldn't kill the 15" just so people don't get confused.

I think the point is that the difference between 13", 15" and 17" laptops is easily grasped by even the least knowledgeable customer. It takes no time to figure which product fits your needs best. The difference between the 9.7" iPad and the 9.7" iPad pro is not intuitive, at least to me. If it is not obvious how different products serve different needs, then you aren't actually expanding the market your product appe…

One is Pro, the other one isn't.

Do you need a better screen with the stylus? If yes, iPad Pro, else iPad.

I mean, this is kind of ridiculous. All beers, wines, sodas come from bottles that are exactly the same size, how do you know if you like Budweiser or Heineken.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

Lots of sibling comments are defending their iPad use cases, but how many of them could be replaced by cheaper tablets? I'm quite happy with my Linx 7" Windows 8 tablet that cost £50. Real Windows, runs Steam, plays Flash and so on; micro-HDMI out, headphone jack and single USB port just like the really expensive Macs. It's made of plastic and has near-zero durability, so probably only a toy for careful children.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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So by killing the iPad Mini 2, they've raised the iPad entry level from $269 to $329

You probably shouldn't have been buying the iPad Mini 2 in the first place, and Apple really shouldn't have been selling it for as long as they did. I'm all for keeping entry-level devices, but the Mini 2 had underwhelming performance to begin with.

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I'm extremely put off by Apple line up getting frustratingly confusing. The devil is in the details here. There was a time, where you could simply trust that an Apple product is built like a tank, that a technology once introduced (like, say, glass screens, or force touch) will always at least be default in the upcoming models. But it is frustrating that Apple started removing fundamental features in a random fashion…

I'd argue that moving from "iPad Air 2" to "iPad" is a step in the right direction, but I agree with your sentiment.

"iPad Mini 4" is the most confusing title in the lineup currently, but I expect them to eschew its version number as well at some point.

I prefer the "Mid YYYY" style of versioning Apple uses on other products.

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