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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Cyph0n »

FroshKiller wrote: post #174
ungzd wrote: post #161

Immediately googled "9.7 inch in cm" because it's hard to imagine size in proprietary units used in only one country. But then encountered "1 lb., 7.5 mm" on the website. That's unit trolling. They should've used megahartleys per decimal second for LTE speed.

There is nothing proprietary about the inch. It's 2.54 cm. We don't have a secret "reference inch" kept under lock and key that everyone else has to ape with reverse engineering or anything. And it's used with great success in more countries than just the U.S.

Why not just use centimeters directly like the rest of the world? I've started to get used to measurements here in the US, except for Fahrenheit. My trick is to mentally approximate using: 32+2*C.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by wietsehage »

Starts making a lot more sense when you try to forsee the future product lineup:

# Was

iPad Mini 2 (7.9)

iPad Mini 4 (7.9)

iPad Air 2 (9.7)

iPad Pro (9.7)

iPad Pro (12.9)

MacBook Air (13)

MacBook (12)

MacBook Pro (13)

MacBook Pro (15)

# Becomes

iPad (9.7)

iPad Pro (10.5)

iPad Pro (12.9)

MacBook (12)

MacBook Pro (13)

MacBook Pro (15)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by kalleboo »

Larrikin wrote: post #187

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

> it's become very hard to justify getting a new iPad over something like the surface

Well the iPad starts at $329 and the Surface starts at $799... The Surface only makes sense if you want a large pro device

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by mbel »

woah wrote: post #176
marvindanig wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also there was reason why Steve Jobs was against all tablet sizes except one. At the time Apple was going after revolutionizing the education market and the 9.7" iPad1/2 fit the bill for that purpose exactly. Then came the iPad mini whose sole purpose was to increase business bottom-line… and then a few more models based on other focuses or potential uses. Meh. Moral of story: Do not destroy the initial momentum and…

Don't iPads suck for education or anything other than consuming media?

Large part of education is consuming media (text books). Although I agree, I've never seen any appeal in iPads in schools.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by arihant »

I'm extremely put off by Apple line up getting frustratingly confusing. The devil is in the details here. There was a time, where you could simply trust that an Apple product is built like a tank, that a technology once introduced (like, say, glass screens, or force touch) will always at least be default in the upcoming models.

But it is frustrating that Apple started removing fundamental features in a random fashion, even from flagship products with no intimation of them. Retina Macbook Pro does not have a glass screen. Users did not realize that until the staingate issue cropped up. It feels even blowing air on the screen will pull off coating. In this iPad, they conveniently removed the lamination.

I cannot even imagine Apple doing that back in the day. Imagine a version of iPhone, let's call it 4E, which does not have 3G.

It feels like I have to do a spec comparison about everything before deciding which Apple product to buy. Because there is no knowing what they silently removed.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by r0fl »

Larrikin wrote: post #187

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

I also have an old iPad 3. It certainly shows it's age and is significantly slower than my iPhone 7 Plus. However, the iPad 3 has worked well for FIVE years! I can count on one hand the number of times it has crashed, it has never been affected by malware, spyware, or some buggy crap software which wasted hours of my time. It has not disappointed me once in those 5 years.

Why would I stray away from a product that has not let me down for so long? Is the surface kickstand and pen input worth:

- having to learn a new OS - not having facetime - not having imessage (90% of my friends and family are on iOS devices) - risking time lost due to malware, bloatware, blue screen, etc

Sure there are tablets out there that are thinner, faster, cheaper and have more features. I just don't care! I rather pay $200-300 more for a device that I will use almost every day for the next 1000-1500 days. Once iPads, iPhones, iMacs start wasting my time with random problems then I will shop around. Until then there is absolutely nothing that would make me switch brands.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by signal11 »

orbitur wrote: post #139
rayiner wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can they justify such a huge regression in the screen?!

The loss of lamination is a regression, but the other features were only present on the Pro model.

They probably got rid of lamination to reduce cost, but I wonder if the loss of lamination will improve repairability.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by stronglikedan »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

My favorite new tactic of theirs is in their new commercials, where an actor will ask if the "iPad" can do something, and the announcer will confirm that it can, on the "iPad Pro". The one that jumps to mind is the MS Office one, but I recall at least one other feature that they advertised using the same tactic.

It's pretty confusing if you don't catch the causally mentioned "Pro" bit at the very end, after they've gone through a segment on the "feature" that the "iPad" can do. I just hope it'll net them a lot of returned iPads from rightfully frustrated customers.

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