iPad 9.7‑inch • Hacker News Board

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by simonh » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:48 PM UTC

rimliu wrote: post #47

g051051 wrote: post #20

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Mine's not a children's toy, but it's almost useless now. Once they stop updating iOS for a device, it's pretty much game over. Many apps have stopped working due to the developers making mistakes and publishing incompatible updates. Just about the only app I can still use is NetFlix.

But it takes about five years to stop releasing iOS updates for particular device.

It's almost always because the device doesn't have enough RAM to support the new OS update.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:50 PM UTC

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

It has got a little confusing over the years but today doesn't add any further complexity and makes things a bit better, it just replaces the iPad Air which I think was badly named to begin with and should have just been called iPad like it was before. May be because the Macbook Air looks to be going away they are getting rid of the Air name, although they just released 'AirPods'.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by perseusprime11 » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:52 PM UTC

I think this will pave way for iPad Pro in two sizes 10.5" and 12.9". They will probably keep iPad at 9.7"

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by slig » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:52 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #84

How can they justify the extra $130 for a cellular chip and antenna?

Price segmentation.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by CoolGuySteve » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:52 PM UTC

RBerenguel wrote: post #94

mark_l_watson wrote: post #58

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There are: Raskell Haskell IDE, Pythonista Python IDE, and the Swift playgrounds IDE. I own Raskell and Pythonista and they are quite good.

Lisping by the creator of Raskell is also pretty good

Lisping is great but it stopped receiving updates a long time ago. I kind of wish it would be open sourced so someone could add more features to that amazing editor it has.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by rayiner » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

berberous wrote: post #45

From a Reddit comment, in addition to the bump from a A8x to A9 chip: - It's as thick as the iPad Air 1 (and thus thicker than the Air 2/9.7" Pro). - No laminated display (and no AR coating, True Tone, or wide color). - Air 2 quality camera. - The iPad mini 4 is now only available in 128GB, at $399. - The chamfers look matte, like the iPhone SE. Also, no Pencil support or smart connector.

How can they justify such a huge regression in the screen?!

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by cmdrfred » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #84

How can they justify the extra $130 for a cellular chip and antenna?

This is the company that charges $300 for a book about its products. The prices are rarely justified beyond "someone will pay it".

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by throwanem » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

paulcole wrote: post #100

coldtea wrote: post #76

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Depends on the line of work and the hobbies of most people one knows. Given my line of work and hobbies, the iPads are very appreciated tools. For the average soccer mom or Joe Sixpack, not so much. At best they'd surf the web and social media on them.

>At best they'd surf the web and social media on them. This is a major part of many people's lives. I'm sure even the proletariat you sneer at appreciate their iPads.

Indeed. They're better Facebook machines than a netbook or a phone, and are heavily used as such.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by artursapek » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

jps359 wrote: post #95

constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

If I had a dollar for every time I've seen a kid at a restaurant playing on their IPad while the family eats...

It's a depressing trend isn't it?

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by brians » Tue, Mar 21, 2017, 1:54 PM UTC

simonh wrote: post #101

rimliu wrote: post #47

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But it takes about five years to stop releasing iOS updates for particular device.

It's almost always because the device doesn't have enough RAM to support the new OS update.

That's part of what I'm disappointed about today: no RAM bump for the 9.7 Pro, and not clear whether the plain iPad is at 1 GB or 2.