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Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by raarts »

ajmurmann wrote: post #170
ars wrote: post #100

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> When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now.... I've been thinking about that, and trying to put my finger on when things changed, and I realized it's not the US that changed, it's the internet! Every single complaint and little thing now has a wide wide audience. The good stuff does not however, since it's [relatively] boring. Talk to some people 40+ and ask them when they thought…

On the A16Z podcast someone made the great suggestion that as the news cycle shortens the news gets more negative. Good things and progress tends to happen on a longer time down but in the long run wins out. Imagine a news paper that gets published every hundred years. Yes, it would certainly cover the world wars, 9/11, probably the cold war. However, massive increases in life expectancy, decrease in poverty, decreas…

I would give all my upvotes to this if I could.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Cyph0n wrote: post #214
sitepodmatt wrote: post #197

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Love it. I laughed more though at the comments to this - one person genuinely not sure if humor or not, and one guy, smart, that somehow managed to figure it out without a /s. Welcome to next generation of software engineers.

You must be new to the internet. I hope you're aware that people sometimes spout nonsense they genuinely believe in. I know it's HN, but I like to keep my guard up ;) Let's say you saw a similar comment on HN describing why the Earth is flat. Would you have reacted the same way?

Sometimes a person can keep pretending they believe in the nonsense they write longer than you can believe they're only joking. Such is the Way of the Troll.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

lb1lf wrote: post #264
Cyph0n wrote: post #216

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I'm aware that using a phone on a plane does no harm, but I just wanted to make sure you didn't actually mean it.

Sure it does. To the cellphone networks. (Unless the aircraft carries its own picocell). The big problem with cellphones on planes is that they overwhelm the signalling networks on the ground - when the carrier tries to determine which cell is best suited to handle your call, it basically polls the neighbouring cells for the received signal strength from that particular phone. When you're on a plane, your phone is se…

I wonder, don't cellphone networks have ways to handle it? E.g. if they detect a phone that behaves as if travelling 13km up at 900km/h, couldn't they just tag it as "in flight" and ignore it for the next few minutes?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jsmthrowaway wrote: post #292
pfarnsworth wrote: post #232

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Let's be honest here. Osama Bin Laden won. The US as we knew it pre-911 doesn't exist anymore. He caused it, but the worst thing about it is that we did it to ourselves. First Bush, then Obama and now Trump is putting the nail in the coffin.

If bin Laden's victory condition was "many overly-reductive Americans bemoaning negative events in their nation's existence by parroting that the sky is irreversibly falling, throwing in the entire towel, forgetting or never bothering to study several existential threats to the United States in its brief history, and shrugging that our doom is all due to a Big Bad who managed to take down the world's occasionally mos…

Let's put it this way: 9/11 achieved exactly what was intended - it sent the US into a tailspin, and it's dragging the rest of the first world down with it. The current condition of US politics wrt. terrorism is best described as acute case of autoimmune disease. The damage of overreaction being much, much worse than the original attack.

That doesn't mean Bin Laden won - history is not a game, the round didn't end yet. US can still recover - if it choses to.

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Post by diminoten »

salesguy222 wrote: post #82
diminoten wrote: post #75

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Dude, it's a 96 hour ban, all signs point to this being a targeted response to a specific credible threat. Chill.

I'm chilled, but what do you mean? Can you link me to the chatter about the credible threat? What if they wait more than 96 hours? What does checking electronics into bags do to keep us safer?

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/324846-feds-tempora...

The subtle arrogance in you asking for the threat Intel is utterly astonishing.

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Post by diminoten »

maxerickson wrote: post #88
diminoten wrote: post #85

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...this is absurd. It's a 96 hour ban, this has absolutely nothing to do with the travel ban.

Could you link or explain where you are getting further info? Neither Bloomberg nor this Reuters article mention the period it will be in effect. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airlines-electronics-i...

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/324846-feds-tempora...

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #249
yongjik wrote: post #70

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...Those people who can understand the difference between a temporary stopping of visa processes and a blanket ban that extends to legal green card holders?

Obama bombed those places with drones.

Yeah, but he looked cool doing it.

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Post by diminoten »

kashkhan wrote: post #84
diminoten wrote: post #75

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Dude, it's a 96 hour ban, all signs point to this being a targeted response to a specific credible threat. Chill.

because the miscreants are too stupid to wait 96 hours.

If you're executing an attack in the next 4 days, you now can't.

Why do you think you know more about international counterterrorism than... Well, anyone?

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Post by danieltillett »

lucaspiller wrote: post #185
ergothus wrote: post #59

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My personal pet peeve is when people say things like "we live in a dangerous world now". No, we don't. At least, not more dangerous than before (which is the implication). We might be breathlessly focused on some dangers, but those dangers are LESS than before, not more. I don't want anyone to suffer, and definitely don't want anyone to die. I'm not calling for turning our backs on every idea to improve safety. Just…

If you look at terrorism in the UK and Ireland, Islamic extremists are quite safe compared to the IRA. There were estimated to be over 10,000 terrorist bomb attacks due to the Northern Ireland conflicts.

But the IRA were white so there is nothing to fear /s

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Post by [deleted] »

jedberg wrote: post #165
jacquesm wrote: post #151

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Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.

Millimeter scans only happen in US airports -- they're banned in ~Europe~ the EU and not really used anywhere else. Also you're very wrong. You can defeat a millimeter scan just by placing the contraband between your palms while your hands are clasped above your head.

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