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How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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I am implying that this is rediculous, and that spending any significant resources to pursue this should be criminal. I'm saying that unless they have a confession from the defendant that he was trying to kill this guy, or his diary dictating that, which they should include in the story were that the case, then this is just stupid. The presidence this case might set forth is terrifying. It provides a never before see…

> I'm saying that unless they have a confession from the defendant that he was trying to kill this guy, or his diary dictating that, which they should include in the story were that the case, then this is just stupid. If that was the standard for a criminal prosecution, we'd rarely convict anyone. > The presidence this case might set forth is terrifying. It provides a never before seen limitless weaponization of the…

Every response is karma suicide, however, I am obviously referring to this exact specific case.. One would traditionally assume that posting a gif is not a crime, no matter the gif (with a few exceptions in the law such as certain types of pornography), in THIS case, the person I am responding to claims it is a crime because of the intent. And the precedent I am discussing is apparently whether or not posting a 'gif' image is assault, regardless of intent, which you are implying this case would claim. Please see my other comment, the one(and the paragraph) talking about 'kittens'. Explain to me the difference between this specific case and that one? How about those gifs which tell you to stare at the optical illusion, and after an arbitrary amount of time, show a terrifying skeleton. Is it a crime to post that without sufficient warning?(assuming it hurts someone psychologically - please apply this assumption to all of the following hypotheticals) Those would never 'go viral' if they contained warnings, obviously, and could be extremely and permanently damaging to certain people with relevant psychological conditions. If it isn't a crime to share those images, is it a crime to post them on an anxiety subreddit? If not, is it a crime to post them on an anxiety subreddit, with intention to trigger panic attacks, or similar, in their users? Is it a crime to email those to a person who enjoys optical illusions, has severe panic disorder and ptsd, and several heart conditions? how about with the intent to kill them? Does intent dictate criminality here? If not, what makes it criminal? Number of people affected by a given condition? Please continue down-voting each of my replies(so I am discouraged from proving my argument) and assume whatever titles are associated with that sort of behavior. Edit: Also worth noting that getting convicted is mostly irrelevant to my argument. I am trying to bring attention to the burden this sort of thing could put on a legal system, especially if it was 'weaponized,' as well as the burden of legal fees, time, and negative publicity, false claims like these would have on the defendant.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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What happens if some 10 year old in say Russia, for example (lol), used Bitcoin he made from a few minutes of mining in the very early days of Bitcoin, to purchase a black hat SEO campaign, spamming social networks like Twitter, Tumblr, and Reddit with a click-baity title and purchased upvotes/likes/retweets, spreading a gif like this across US social networks. Would our law enforcement convince, or manually penetrat…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13919250 and marked it off-topic.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

#93

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> I'm saying that unless they have a confession from the defendant that he was trying to kill this guy, or his diary dictating that, which they should include in the story were that the case, then this is just stupid. If that was the standard for a criminal prosecution, we'd rarely convict anyone. > The presidence this case might set forth is terrifying. It provides a never before seen limitless weaponization of the…

Every response is karma suicide, however, I am obviously referring to this exact specific case.. One would traditionally assume that posting a gif is not a crime, no matter the gif (with a few exceptions in the law such as certain types of pornography), in THIS case, the person I am responding to claims it is a crime because of the intent. And the precedent I am discussing is apparently whether or not posting a 'gif'…

It looks to me like you're being downvoted because you're overposting and your comments are impossible to make sense of. Please stop.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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The FBI had a warrant

Yeah, if you try to _literally kill someone over the internet_ and you think any lawful company is going to fight a warrant for your data, you've got another thing coming.

Without excusing the act, I think part of why people minimize or dismiss the potential damage for acts like these is because they feel like it can't be that bad if it's that easy to do.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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post #76

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Yeah, if you try to _literally kill someone over the internet_ and you think any lawful company is going to fight a warrant for your data, you've got another thing coming.

It feels like people still minimize pretty awful actions when they happen over the internet. Imagine someone running up to someone with epilepsy in public and showing them strobes? What sort of deranged person does that? Imagine someone sending death threats through snail mail over and over. Of course that's horrific! But brigaders doing it through twitter is kinda fine because "hey, you're on twitter, stupid stuff h…

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Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Different screen size, but many games have a warning about epilepsy.

It might be like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_65_(198... where the incentives are to mindlessly post a warning without any effort to confirm whether it's necessary. Result: warnings on everything until they're nearly unavoidable.

When everything has a warning, nothing does.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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I use this bit of CSS to make images/videos grayscale till I hover over them: iframe,video,img {filter:grayscale(1)!important;} iframe:hover,video:hover,img:hover {filter:none!important;} Ignore the hover part and it seems like it'd work fine for mobile (Firefox with an extension), though it does seem like you'd need to be holding your phone/tablet pretty close to have a seizure either way?

How does this work? Do you run your browser in development mode with a script or is there some way to run css on all pages you visit (sorry I'm not a web person and my terminology is surely off).

Pretty much what mintplant said, though on desktop Firefox you can also use UserContent.css (not sure how long it'll be supported for though).

http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserContent.css

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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post #22

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Different screen size, but many games have a warning about epilepsy.

It might be like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_65_(198... where the incentives are to mindlessly post a warning without any effort to confirm whether it's necessary. Result: warnings on everything until they're nearly unavoidable.

Them's the breaks. When you have such laws like that "everything causes cancer in california" one, the only recourse companies have is to cover their asses.

It takes one guy to file a suit that he got a seizure from your game when it didn't have a warning. Even if he didn't get a seizure, have fun in court.

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