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How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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What happens if some 10 year old in say Russia, for example (lol), used Bitcoin he made from a few minutes of mining in the very early days of Bitcoin, to purchase a black hat SEO campaign, spamming social networks like Twitter, Tumblr, and Reddit with a click-baity title and purchased upvotes/likes/retweets, spreading a gif like this across US social networks. Would our law enforcement convince, or manually penetrat…

> 10 year old

> mining in the very early days of Bitcoin

So junior was mining at what, age 3? Smart kid.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Was trying to be witty, but really the lesson would apply to anyone trying to be anonymous on the Internet, including those who have more noble motives.

If you want to be anonymous on the internet and you are doing this for immediate and spontaneous reasons my advice to you would be to forget about whatever you were planning, likely you will not manage to maintain your anonymity. If you have a lot of knowledge in this field and a fair amount of time to prepare you may be able to pull it off but chances are you will still get a detail wrong somewhere and find yourself…

I always figured if you had to do something illegal go to a public library you've never been to before and only use a computer once and never use it again. Also disguise yourself when you go. That being said you wouldn't be able to login to anything like twitter and you can't continue your actions very easily.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

#83

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Convicting a person who allegedly posted an image on the internet, with intent to trigger a sizeure in another, sets the precident for every means of distribution of a similar image that I listed off to be treated as attempted murder or whatever charges come of this. Name one thing in my wall of text that is not an implication of this story; Unless you are implying this article is on hackernews, only to foster discus…

> Convicting a person who allegedly posted an image on the internet, with intent to trigger a sizeure in another, sets the precident for every means of distribution of a similar image that I listed off to be treated as attempted murder or whatever charges come of this. You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of 'intent' in criminal law. This was a message targeted at an individual with specific intent to cause…

Proving intent in most cases, is extremely costly and difficult. Are you familiar with the concept of 'precedent' in criminal law?

If some goofy, or troubled and confused child, plants jalapeno peppers in his yard, with the intent that that Shia Labeouf hitchhikes across the country, develops an allergy to Jalapenos and trespasses and picks the jalapenos and wipes them all over his face and dies, should the government allocate resources, obtain warrants, and investigate said intent?

The internet contains mechanisms to completely obfuscate identity, to varying degrees, with ease; anyone can access it, there is virtually no accountability in many cases. There are no qualifications required, no definitive rules, no required courses, and there is no required key or credential to partake. It provides more abstraction, more distance between parties, less immediate responses, less certainty of truth, and very few implications are inherently evident to the naive. It is easier to make the decision to take action, and more dangerous, in every facet I can think of, than firearms are. We definitely need to issue certifications, credentials, consequences, training course mandates and massive regulations asap. Aside from the epileptic, I know of someone who experience transient psychosis, often leading to complete mental breakdown, upon seeing images of kittens. The doctors have been thus far unable to identify the root cause of the condition, but kitten pictures are extremely risky. He's only ten years old, and his mom lets him browse 4chan for twelve hours a day, and is in grave danger. I think any condition affecting more than seven people, need be addressed; INTERNET KILLS.

Is the word 'fantasy' commonly used to describe future, similar cases in the legal world? Are you familiar with the word 'implications' or 'citations' in the English language? How about 'money', 'foolishness', 'wastefulness' or 'petty'? The phrase: 'insufferable ignorance'?

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Desktop browsers allow you to disable auto-playing animated images. I'm surprised mobile browsers don't seem to have this. If I suffered from this, I'd want some sort of reasonable protection from asshats.

I use this bit of CSS to make images/videos grayscale till I hover over them: iframe,video,img {filter:grayscale(1)!important;} iframe:hover,video:hover,img:hover {filter:none!important;} Ignore the hover part and it seems like it'd work fine for mobile (Firefox with an extension), though it does seem like you'd need to be holding your phone/tablet pretty close to have a seizure either way?

How does this work? Do you run your browser in development mode with a script or is there some way to run css on all pages you visit (sorry I'm not a web person and my terminology is surely off).

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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That's a good place point. I see Apple's disability servies praised on a regular basis. One would have thought this scenario would have been thought of. Is it possible on iOS to disable animations / autoplay within an app?

It seems like it would be useful to do this at the OS level too, not just per application. I.e. detect and filter out combinations of pixels sent to the screen that could cause a seizure. That would make the whole device a lot safer. I wonder if (a) this is possible and (b) whether it would interfere too much with desirable animations. Edit: There is (offline) software to check if a video could cause a seizure: https…

It's probably possible on an OS level but I'm guessing it's an expensive task. If you're playing a 3d game that's resource intensive and you want to check 'every' frame you'll surely take a performance hit. I think disabling gif/movies/etc from playing automatically would be almost as effective and not as much overhead (toggle option of course)

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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> Convicting a person who allegedly posted an image on the internet, with intent to trigger a sizeure in another, sets the precident for every means of distribution of a similar image that I listed off to be treated as attempted murder or whatever charges come of this. You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of 'intent' in criminal law. This was a message targeted at an individual with specific intent to cause…

Proving intent in most cases, is extremely costly and difficult. Are you familiar with the concept of 'precedent' in criminal law? If some goofy, or troubled and confused child, plants jalapeno peppers in his yard, with the intent that that Shia Labeouf hitchhikes across the country, develops an allergy to Jalapenos and trespasses and picks the jalapenos and wipes them all over his face and dies, should the governmen…

> Proving intent in most cases, is extremely costly and difficult. Are you familiar with the concept of 'precedent' in criminal law?

I don't know about "most cases", but in this particular case it's fairly easy since the weapon came attached with a note saying essentially 'I am hoping this kills you, buh bye'.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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post #84
post #71

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I use this bit of CSS to make images/videos grayscale till I hover over them: iframe,video,img {filter:grayscale(1)!important;} iframe:hover,video:hover,img:hover {filter:none!important;} Ignore the hover part and it seems like it'd work fine for mobile (Firefox with an extension), though it does seem like you'd need to be holding your phone/tablet pretty close to have a seizure either way?

How does this work? Do you run your browser in development mode with a script or is there some way to run css on all pages you visit (sorry I'm not a web person and my terminology is surely off).

You could use something like Stylish.

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylish-custom-the...

Collection of custom stylesheets: https://userstyles.org/

Userscripts are the same concept for JavaScript; see https://greasyfork.org/en

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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Page 11-12, Weird how he takes screenshots of random shit like his research on how to trigger epilepsy. Who researches shit and takes screenshots?

My SO is a specialist nurse. She takes screenshots of everything under the sun. She finds it easier to quickly look up screenshots than load a bookmark or even find her own research notes. When I asked about it, she said all the other nurses and doctors do it too and that's where she picked it up.

Yeah, makes sense. Bookmark == pointer to bytes, Screenshot == bytes. If the bytes could save someone's life (or N doctor visits, or even 5 saved minutes), quite worthwhile to keep a copy.

Same principal as pinboard.in's archiving, except comes stock on nearly every phone.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

#89

This is as close to a real life 'snowcrash' as you could get and whoever did this (and the copycats) should be thrown the book at. 50K people die in the USA alone each year due to seizures, this is really no joking matter.

The problem is that it's easy to say someone gave you a seizure, since -most- are not fatal, even if they didn't have a seizure. There's not much evidence against or supporting that you had a seizure from a gif. This really opens the door for abuse on both ends. So, I am skeptical of "throw the book at them" as a solution, because it would be so easy to fake and ruin someone. The solution should be with browser maker…

Even if the attempt to cause a seizure didn't work, the attempt was itself a crime.

Re: How police found Twitter user accused of sending seizure-triggering GIF

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This is a long rant of "what if's" that aren't relevant since the details are known. The "what if the guy didn't do it" is what the justice system is for, attorneys and investigators sort it out.

I am implying that this is rediculous, and that spending any significant resources to pursue this should be criminal. I'm saying that unless they have a confession from the defendant that he was trying to kill this guy, or his diary dictating that, which they should include in the story were that the case, then this is just stupid. The presidence this case might set forth is terrifying. It provides a never before see…

> I'm saying that unless they have a confession from the defendant that he was trying to kill this guy, or his diary dictating that, which they should include in the story were that the case, then this is just stupid.

If that was the standard for a criminal prosecution, we'd rarely convict anyone.

> The presidence this case might set forth is terrifying. It provides a never before seen limitless weaponization of the justice system, which will be abused by those without morals, those who have a lot to lose, and those with more $ to attack anyone they like.

The fact that assault is a crime has been established many, many years ago.

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