What brave people Americans are lately. Afraid of an iPad being used on a plane.
Only naivety would lead someone to lump all Americans together and claim they are collectively responsible for this. Also, America is a big place [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
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They'd better have a very good reason for this (e.g. very credible threat). Otherwise even moderates that voted for Trump are going to suffer from serious case of buyer's remorse.
Does Trump have many voters flying from Saudi Arabia?
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> When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now.... I've been thinking about that, and trying to put my finger on when things changed, and I realized it's not the US that changed, it's the internet! Every single complaint and little thing now has a wide wide audience. The good stuff does not however, since it's [relatively] boring. Talk to some people 40+ and ask them when they thought…
I'm 40+ and can tell you exactly when things started going down hill: September 11, 2001. We were told the world had changed and that we had to fear the unknown. We have been a nation of frightened children ever since.
older, 22 Nov '63.
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#164I'm convinced this ban is motivated by a protectionist desire from the US-based airlines, to dissuade business travelers from flying on Middle Eastern airlines like Emirates and Qatar, which necessarily transit through countries like the UAE. If you're someone who flies for work, there's no way you're going to take a flight where you can't use your laptop.
Are the listed airlines the only ones that have direct flights to the US?
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Or just their ass. People can fit amazingly large things in their ass and it would bypass all airport detection. There is no real security with such big loopholes.
Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.
Also you're very wrong. You can defeat a millimeter scan just by placing the contraband between your palms while your hands are clasped above your head.
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#166The Big 4 Middle East/Gulf airlines (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Turkish) have been giving legacy US carriers a lot of grief lately, since they're both cheaper and better on essentially all counts, so I can't help but wonder if they have their finger in the pie here. Few businessmen will opt to fly long-haul if they can't use their laptops, and they're specifically targeting 9 airlines here, not just airports or countri…
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Or just their ass. People can fit amazingly large things in their ass and it would bypass all airport detection. There is no real security with such big loopholes.
Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.
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Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.
Millimeter scans only happen in US airports -- they're banned in ~Europe~ the EU and not really used anywhere else. Also you're very wrong. You can defeat a millimeter scan just by placing the contraband between your palms while your hands are clasped above your head.
were.
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/04/19/bodyscanners-zo-gaat-he...
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#170When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now when I read stuff like this I always get reminded how this country went from pretty open to being scared, irrational and mean in the last 15 or so years.
> When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now.... I've been thinking about that, and trying to put my finger on when things changed, and I realized it's not the US that changed, it's the internet! Every single complaint and little thing now has a wide wide audience. The good stuff does not however, since it's [relatively] boring. Talk to some people 40+ and ask them when they thought…