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Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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What brave people Americans are lately. Afraid of an iPad being used on a plane.

Only naivety would lead someone to lump all Americans together and claim they are collectively responsible for this. Also, America is a big place [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas

Oddly, that's exactly how I feel about profiling of people from the Middle East.

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They'd better have a very good reason for this (e.g. very credible threat). Otherwise even moderates that voted for Trump are going to suffer from serious case of buyer's remorse.

Does Trump have many voters flying from Saudi Arabia?

Maybe not the KSA, but Dubai for example is a key connection for travelers from Asia.

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> When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now.... I've been thinking about that, and trying to put my finger on when things changed, and I realized it's not the US that changed, it's the internet! Every single complaint and little thing now has a wide wide audience. The good stuff does not however, since it's [relatively] boring. Talk to some people 40+ and ask them when they thought…

I'm 40+ and can tell you exactly when things started going down hill: September 11, 2001. We were told the world had changed and that we had to fear the unknown. We have been a nation of frightened children ever since.

"I'm 40+ and can tell you exactly when things started going down hill: September 11, 2001."

older, 22 Nov '63.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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post #62

I'm convinced this ban is motivated by a protectionist desire from the US-based airlines, to dissuade business travelers from flying on Middle Eastern airlines like Emirates and Qatar, which necessarily transit through countries like the UAE. If you're someone who flies for work, there's no way you're going to take a flight where you can't use your laptop.

Are the listed airlines the only ones that have direct flights to the US?

From my experience, yes, they have covered all of the major airlines in the region.

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Or just their ass. People can fit amazingly large things in their ass and it would bypass all airport detection. There is no real security with such big loopholes.

Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.

Millimeter scans only happen in US airports -- they're banned in ~Europe~ the EU and not really used anywhere else.

Also you're very wrong. You can defeat a millimeter scan just by placing the contraband between your palms while your hands are clasped above your head.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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The Big 4 Middle East/Gulf airlines (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Turkish) have been giving legacy US carriers a lot of grief lately, since they're both cheaper and better on essentially all counts, so I can't help but wonder if they have their finger in the pie here. Few businessmen will opt to fly long-haul if they can't use their laptops, and they're specifically targeting 9 airlines here, not just airports or countri…

It says that other carriers will be informed on Tuesday, so maybe they aren't aware yet. But yes it's sounds a bit weird to ban it on only some carriers...

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Or just their ass. People can fit amazingly large things in their ass and it would bypass all airport detection. There is no real security with such big loopholes.

Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.

And if you care about your radiation dose (some of us do) you will opt for a molestation rather than a zap.

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Bollocks. That's one thing the millimeter scan will pick up just fine.

Millimeter scans only happen in US airports -- they're banned in ~Europe~ the EU and not really used anywhere else. Also you're very wrong. You can defeat a millimeter scan just by placing the contraband between your palms while your hands are clasped above your head.

> Millimeter scans only happen in US airports -- they're banned in Europe and not really used anywhere else.

were.

https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/04/19/bodyscanners-zo-gaat-he...

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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post #25

When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now when I read stuff like this I always get reminded how this country went from pretty open to being scared, irrational and mean in the last 15 or so years.

> When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now.... I've been thinking about that, and trying to put my finger on when things changed, and I realized it's not the US that changed, it's the internet! Every single complaint and little thing now has a wide wide audience. The good stuff does not however, since it's [relatively] boring. Talk to some people 40+ and ask them when they thought…

On the A16Z podcast someone made the great suggestion that as the news cycle shortens the news gets more negative. Good things and progress tends to happen on a longer time down but in the long run wins out. Imagine a news paper that gets published every hundred years. Yes, it would certainly cover the world wars, 9/11, probably the cold war. However, massive increases in life expectancy, decrease in poverty, decrease in violent deaths from crime or war, incredible scientific progress would overshadow almost everything dreadful we are concerned about on a daily basis. It probably would be mostly uplifting to read such a news paper. Our news cycle instead is down to a point where it's hard to imagine it could get any shorter.
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