...I feel like no one here read the article. Based on these comments, one might think that A) this had never happened before (it has), or B) it was permanent (it's a 96 hour ban).
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#82You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…
Dude, it's a 96 hour ban, all signs point to this being a targeted response to a specific credible threat. Chill.
I'm chilled, but what do you mean? Can you link me to the chatter about the credible threat?
What if they wait more than 96 hours? What does checking electronics into bags do to keep us safer?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it make more sense than the previous security procedure that everyone passengers had to take off their shoes and have them scanned? Or the current ban on liquids? Or the even better idea I saw in Brussels airport of two semi-identical security checks; one to get into the airport and then the "regular" second one. I can only wait for the next improved version of three security checkpoints, which will add 50% more…
Multiple checks are not stupid at all. The screening is not 100% reliable and an independent repeat is a reasonable way to improve detections of weapons, which have been shown to get through sometimes in TSA and third-party experiments.
Vacuuming the living room rug with a broken vacuum twice isn't going to make it significantly cleaner.
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#84You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…
Dude, it's a 96 hour ban, all signs point to this being a targeted response to a specific credible threat. Chill.
because the miscreants are too stupid to wait 96 hours.
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#85I have no idea what the point of this is.
> the ban will apply to nonstop flights to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight countries in the Middle East and North Africa Personal electronics are near-indispensable. By restricting their carry from Muslim countries, freedom of movement to and from those countries is significantly curtailed. This is about getting around the illegality of the Muslim ban without banning any persons or groups. This is about "cultural…
...this is absurd. It's a 96 hour ban, this has absolutely nothing to do with the travel ban.
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#86You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…
The TSA wasnt any better under Obama... Don't spin this into a Trump issue
I agree with you, but isn't this directly from the administration? Surely a rogue bureaucrat wouldn't do this on their own.
And if Trump admin disagreed with it, they wouldn't implement it.
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#87I'm convinced this ban is motivated by a protectionist desire from the US-based airlines, to dissuade business travelers from flying on Middle Eastern airlines like Emirates and Qatar, which necessarily transit through countries like the UAE. If you're someone who flies for work, there's no way you're going to take a flight where you can't use your laptop.
Are the listed airlines the only ones that have direct flights to the US?
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the ban will apply to nonstop flights to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight countries in the Middle East and North Africa Personal electronics are near-indispensable. By restricting their carry from Muslim countries, freedom of movement to and from those countries is significantly curtailed. This is about getting around the illegality of the Muslim ban without banning any persons or groups. This is about "cultural…
...this is absurd. It's a 96 hour ban, this has absolutely nothing to do with the travel ban.
Could you link or explain where you are getting further info?
Neither Bloomberg nor this Reuters article mention the period it will be in effect.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airlines-electronics-i...
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the ban will apply to nonstop flights to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight countries in the Middle East and North Africa Personal electronics are near-indispensable. By restricting their carry from Muslim countries, freedom of movement to and from those countries is significantly curtailed. This is about getting around the illegality of the Muslim ban without banning any persons or groups. This is about "cultural…
...this is absurd. It's a 96 hour ban, this has absolutely nothing to do with the travel ban.
Subjecting a targeted group to repeated fear and uncertainty through changing rules seems to be more of the plan than an absurdity. A rule like this establishes precedent, even.
You put up this headline without any of the other political context and I am right there with you. But there is no shortage of context.
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#90When I was passing through Singapore once, two Americans in front of me started taking their shoes off right before the security check. The security officer gave them a weird look and said they can put it back on because he uses a scanner and doesn't need to look inside everyones shoe. Fast forward 3 years and i'm reading comments on HN about double security check not being bad heh. Checked in bag is not free. Checke…
> Checked in bag is not free. Checked in bags also get manhandled unless you pay hefty to get the fragile tag and insurance.
Assuming it arrives at all... it could be a very expensive bag. And laptops in checked luggage is just asking for them to walk off. There is absolutely no way I'd check my laptop, then again, I'm not planning on going to the United States before the madness stops and if I would I probably would not fly through any country that this is all about.
Even so, it does not strike me as a policy that has been thought about for a very long time. Having laptops in the passenger area means that if something bad does happen something could be done about it.
Having them in the cargo compartment means that if a fire should start it could get quite bad before it gets noticed and the extinguisher gets used.
If they're scared of bombs then they should not be on board at all, cargo hold or passenger compartment doesn't matter.
So I really don't understand the point of this, maybe time will bring me to see the reasoning but right now I can't.