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Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by caf »

r00fus wrote: post #22
salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Spare (laptop) batteries are not allowed as checked luggage [1] (presumably the danger of a shorted battery causing a hull fire or explosion). Why would a laptop go into checked when an equivalently sized battery not be allowed? Further discrepancies that show we don't have a rational executive branch. [1] https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/as...

Laptops don't have exposed terminals.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by adventured »

harlanlewis wrote: post #33
coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

> the ban will apply to nonstop flights to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight countries in the Middle East and North Africa Personal electronics are near-indispensable. By restricting their carry from Muslim countries, freedom of movement to and from those countries is significantly curtailed. This is about getting around the illegality of the Muslim ban without banning any persons or groups. This is about "cultural…

The premise you're going with doesn't make much sense. The devices aren't banned, you have to pack them in your luggage. It won't significantly curtail freedom of movement at all.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by maxerickson »

jaxn wrote: post #43
coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

To prevent passengers from having access to communication while going through customs. To limit pictures and social media posts in the time between when they get off the plane in the US until their retrieve their checked bags from baggage claim.

It seems not to apply to cell phones.

Also, the one time I came into the US, I carried my checked bags through customs.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

jaxn wrote: post #43
coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

To prevent passengers from having access to communication while going through customs. To limit pictures and social media posts in the time between when they get off the plane in the US until their retrieve their checked bags from baggage claim.

Phones are an exception to this policy, so neither of these is applicable.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by adventured »

yongjik wrote: post #26
coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

I guess it's a shoutout to Trump's core supporters that he's still committed to doing "The Right Thing" by putting those brown people in their proper places. (Totally not picked because they're muslim, I swear, wink wink.)

So who was Obama appealing to among his core supporters, when he attacked "brown people" in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen?

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by mnm1 »

Note that some airlines, like Delta, do not allow computers or lithium batteries in checked luggage (for example: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/ba... && https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/ba...) so this essentially means that other than phones, these things are completely banned and will have to be shipped separately or not shipped at all.

EDIT: Also, no airline that I know of will insure these items when checked in for more than $100 on international flights (please correct if I'm wrong). So if you can get them in at all, like the article says, they will be stolen.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by [deleted] »

jaxn wrote: post #43
coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

To prevent passengers from having access to communication while going through customs. To limit pictures and social media posts in the time between when they get off the plane in the US until their retrieve their checked bags from baggage claim.

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Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by harlanlewis »

adventured wrote: post #52
harlanlewis wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the ban will apply to nonstop flights to the U.S. from 10 airports in eight countries in the Middle East and North Africa Personal electronics are near-indispensable. By restricting their carry from Muslim countries, freedom of movement to and from those countries is significantly curtailed. This is about getting around the illegality of the Muslim ban without banning any persons or groups. This is about "cultural…

The premise you're going with doesn't make much sense. The devices aren't banned, you have to pack them in your luggage. It won't significantly curtail freedom of movement at all.

You're not wrong. I suppose I'd call my own statement a bit weak if this wasn't the third highly targeted policy in the past 2 months - in fact one of the few types of policies this administration has pushed all the way to action. It's possible my lens is broken, but it seems to me none of the policies considering the general populace of the middle east should be considered in isolation.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by ergothus »

maxxxxx wrote: post #25

When I came to the US in 2000 it was a fairly optimistic and happy place. Now when I read stuff like this I always get reminded how this country went from pretty open to being scared, irrational and mean in the last 15 or so years.

My personal pet peeve is when people say things like "we live in a dangerous world now". No, we don't. At least, not more dangerous than before (which is the implication). We might be breathlessly focused on some dangers, but those dangers are LESS than before, not more.

I don't want anyone to suffer, and definitely don't want anyone to die. I'm not calling for turning our backs on every idea to improve safety. Just don't apply this safety under the false premise that things are more dangerous than they were.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by run4yourlives2 »

coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

Piss off brown Muslim people.

Seriously. He couldn't get his ban through (twice), so now he's just going to make it as inconvenient as hell for people from those eight countries to travel to the US. It's a big 'fuck you' to Muslims.

The POTUS is a 3 year old in a man's body.

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