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Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by modeless »

salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Look, I hate Trump. But air security policy hasn't been rational for a long time. Don't tie every government dysfunction to Trump.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by jaxn »

coldcode wrote: post #2

I have no idea what the point of this is.

To prevent passengers from having access to communication while going through customs. To limit pictures and social media posts in the time between when they get off the plane in the US until their retrieve their checked bags from baggage claim.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by robotresearcher »

belorn wrote: post #31
salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Does it make more sense than the previous security procedure that everyone passengers had to take off their shoes and have them scanned? Or the current ban on liquids? Or the even better idea I saw in Brussels airport of two semi-identical security checks; one to get into the airport and then the "regular" second one. I can only wait for the next improved version of three security checkpoints, which will add 50% more…

Multiple checks are not stupid at all. The screening is not 100% reliable and an independent repeat is a reasonable way to improve detections of weapons, which have been shown to get through sometimes in TSA and third-party experiments.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by stevenwoo »

peterwwillis wrote: post #23
dogecoinbase wrote: post #6

This is... crazy. I can't even recall the last time I travelled with checked luggage of any kind, and make a point of not letting my laptop/etc out of arm's reach while traveling. I guess this does make it easier to search/bug devices, though.

This is actually one of the few credible attacks a hijacker could perform, and reducing the size of the batteries (assuming most cellphones don't have 72Whr 6-cell batteries) is a practical method to prevent such an attack in the cabin. However, it doesn't seem to rule out the exact same thing happening in the cargo hold with a timer. It's less stupid than water restrictions.

The rationale for water restrictions seems OK to me on the face of it. It's a PIA for traveling. http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/02/more-on-liquid-rules-why-we-do-t...

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by pcurve »

MichaelGG wrote: post #17
pcurve wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'd better have a very good reason for this (e.g. very credible threat). Otherwise even moderates that voted for Trump are going to suffer from serious case of buyer's remorse.

Does Trump have many voters flying from Saudi Arabia?

No, but his policies are making the U.S. look pretty bad. His hardcore supporters won't care about that, but swing voters that swung his way would.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by derrickdirge »

modeless wrote: post #41
salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Look, I hate Trump. But air security policy hasn't been rational for a long time. Don't tie every government dysfunction to Trump.

Just because it's always been irrational doesn't mean it isn't especially irrational now.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by zzalpha »

modeless wrote: post #41
salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Look, I hate Trump. But air security policy hasn't been rational for a long time. Don't tie every government dysfunction to Trump.

They may not be responsible for past policy, but I don't think it unreasonable to blame successive executive branches if they make the policy even more irrational.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by wheelerwj »

modeless wrote: post #41
salesguy222 wrote: post #10

You look at this and say to yourself, "this doesn't make any sense! i don't get how allowing cell phones and 'medical devices' (nebulous term) into carry ons, but demanding that laptops go into checked baggage is keeping us safe!" And you're right! It isn't. But then you realize that the special interests that came up with this policy were paid LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to impress Trump and all of his supporters and career…

Look, I hate Trump. But air security policy hasn't been rational for a long time. Don't tie every government dysfunction to Trump.

ill never forget the time when a national gaurd(?) member pointed (but not aimed) a military assat rifle at my little sister and seperated her from my family while they looked through her backpack for the electronics she forgot to empty. it was a scientific calculator, and she was 13 i think? so yeah, agreed. Airtravel hasn't been rational in a long time.

this was sometime in the months following 9/11.

Re: Most Electronics Being Banned on Certain US-Bound Flights

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Post by BWStearns »

praneshp wrote: post #30

Which countries? From the article, I can glean Saudi and Jordan. Pretty poor journalism (or reading ability on my part)

Seems the source couldn't/wouldn't disclose the list. Given it's 8 countries in Middle East/North Africa,my bet is old travel ban countries plus one.
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