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Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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Youtube is an amazing resource. In the past I would read, but I'm finding that videos (and audiobooks) help speed learning:

Basic machining from MIT (I now need a milling machine and lathe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4McYKCd2Hg

Learn about Synchrotrons from UC Berkeley (Undulators and Wigglers):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WWnxA6odso

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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I agree - surely adults can learn these tennis strokes, even if they are harder to pick up. There is an absolutely fascinating video about plasticity of learning between adults and children that I'd highly recommend watching [1]. A man built a "backwards bicycle", where the handlebars steer the bike in the opposite direction to what you would expect. It was almost impossible for him to ride the bike more than a few f…

He does say in the video that wasn't trying to actively learn to ride it. Where as the guy in this video [1] claims it only took him 1 h 29 min. You could probably argue that his age might have helped, but it could also be equally true that he used better methods of practice to achieve that goal. Destin also admits "It took me 8 months to learn how to do this, but I was only picking up the bike and running to the end…

With that in mind I wouldn't be surprised if he could learn it in a few hours if he really put effort into it.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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I really don't think there's much difference between learning as an adult or a teenager. It's just that we have less time. A few months ago I wanted to learn to appreciate and listen to classical music. I woke up an hour earlier every morning and read a book, listened to an audio course (Robert Greenberg's How to Listen to and Understand Great Music), and listened to actual music then and throughout the day. A few mo…

> I really don't think there's much difference between learning as an adult or a teenager. It's just that we have less time. I am a 40-year-old full time student with a kid, but no job. I disagree completely. I've got the time. When I was 20, I remembered everything I saw or heard even once. I could recall it with ease. Concepts came easily when they were explained in text or in lecture. Now? I'm still plenty smart a…

You mentioned you have a kid and no job. So, you might also worry about the future of your family -- unless you're super rich. I think that makes a big difference. When I was 20 I had the great privilege that I simply didn't care much about my future most of the time. I was able to concentrate fully on what I was doing. Now, I have to handle all sorts of minor problems that occupy some space in my consciousness. I have to allocate time for learning new stuff in advance instead of just doing it when I feel like it and when I'm best at it.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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I just re-learned skateboarding. I spent a lot of time skating in my late teens (37 now), and was decent at it. I noticed three things throughout the learning process this time around. First, there is so much more information available today than when I was a kid. YouTube videos alone could keep me busy for years. Then you add in the GoPro and my phone, and you have an entirely new world available. The one downside h…

As someone who tried snowboarding for the first time this weekend and fell over around 200 times, this gives me some heart.

I snowboard a tremendous amount and have tought many people. Your experience is typical.... Even with a great teacher newbies spend their first two days eating it!

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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You are probably already a great learner then. I took the course and can definitely say it was an eye opener. Few additional tricks I picked up: * Recall(as you mentioned) is critical to understanding. Effective recall also connects a topic just learned with other known topics. * A problem looks solvable but its important to actually apply yourself and arrive at the solution. The process of learning does not offer re…

All these are basic Common Sense, aren't they though? In fact, structuring them like this appears to take all the fun out of the process of learning, reducing it to a mere mechanical algorithm. My take is this - you learn best when you are curious or can get curious about something. That kind of learning sticks. Or maybe I'm just different.

Sometimes in school (and life in general) there are things you aren't super interested in but must learn anyway to satisfy.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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If you really need to memorise hard numbers, use a memory palace. By mapping numbers to consonants and then putting vowels in between you can make any word. The system I use is the following: 1 - t 2 - n 3 - m 4 - r 5 - l 6 - j 7 - f 8 - k,g 9 - p,b 0 - s,z For example, Pi starts with 3.14159265. Chunk this into pairs of digits: 14, 15, 92, 65, or in consonants we find, tr, tl, pn, jl. We can create a story with this…

Does this really work? I've never had any success with mnemonics. The best way I've found to remember numbers is to type them on number keyboard from time to time and let the muscle memory do its work.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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Scales and nursery rhymes? If you want to play songs learn chords. Learn A, D and E, play wild thing. Takes like 20 minutes play badly, a couple of days to play ok. Scales are for soloing rather than rhythm guitar.

I know some chords: A, Am, C, C7, D, D7, E, Em, G, G7 I can switch between those fairly fluidly. Even Wild Thing has a solo part in the middle. A, D, and E really aren't enough, are they? Can you name a few other real songs that you think are early beginner level?

That's the kids secret, they don't learn it all in one big bang. Kids don't play the solo or play it perfectly to begin with. They play along with the song on the stereo, then you don't have to do the solo any way! There's also a rhythm guitar going on under a solo, if not you can fill that bit with the same chords as the solo is playing (usually the verse or chorus chords) based on those chords. Then they learn solos later.

Also, if you learn the barre chord, you learn most of modern rock's rhythm guitar.

Polly - Nirvana (E, G, D, C / D, C, G, A# barre), see https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/n/nirvana/polly_crd.htm

Pennyroyal Tea - Nirvana (E, G + some barre chords) simple chords and an incredibly simple solo too)

Karma Police - Radiohead (this has a B in it though and like on piano, Bs are a bit awkward)

House of the Rising Sun

Help - Beatles

Everybody hurts - R.E.M. (very basic plucking, D/G), see https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/r/r_e_m_/everybody_hurts_cr...

I learnt in the 90s as you might be able to tell. Most songs I know I've no clue what the solos are. Here's some other ideas:

http://www.guitarnoise.com/blog/first-songs-to-learn-on-guit...

http://www.guitarhabits.com/top-30-easy-guitar-chord-songs-b...

It's also really easy to find basic arrangements. Just search "[song name] tab". What I used to do is search for a song I liked, if the tab looked difficult, search for another song, until I found one I could handle.

Right now, I'm doing the inverse of you, learning piano when I know guitar. I'm doing a course which teaches you very basic song arrangements while it develops you chords and fingering skills, and I personally find it easier to pick up the techniques by practising along to arrangements I vaguely know, even if it's just a verse or chorus.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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Scales and nursery rhymes? If you want to play songs learn chords. Learn A, D and E, play wild thing. Takes like 20 minutes play badly, a couple of days to play ok. Scales are for soloing rather than rhythm guitar.

I know some chords: A, Am, C, C7, D, D7, E, Em, G, G7 I can switch between those fairly fluidly. Even Wild Thing has a solo part in the middle. A, D, and E really aren't enough, are they? Can you name a few other real songs that you think are early beginner level?

Knocking On Heaven's Door was the first 'real' song I could make sound halfway decent.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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I know some chords: A, Am, C, C7, D, D7, E, Em, G, G7 I can switch between those fairly fluidly. Even Wild Thing has a solo part in the middle. A, D, and E really aren't enough, are they? Can you name a few other real songs that you think are early beginner level?

That's the kids secret, they don't learn it all in one big bang. Kids don't play the solo or play it perfectly to begin with. They play along with the song on the stereo, then you don't have to do the solo any way! There's also a rhythm guitar going on under a solo, if not you can fill that bit with the same chords as the solo is playing (usually the verse or chorus chords) based on those chords. Then they learn solo…

Thanks for taking the time to write this out. It's very helpful.

How are you finding the piano? At one point I thought that might be a better fit for me because I can type quickly and accurately. But now I watch my daughter play and seeing her read read and play different left and right hand sequences makes me think that would have been more difficult.

After spending quite a bit of time playing Rocksmith, I can't help but think that it should be way better than it is. I think their strategy of ramping up the difficulty is excellent, but the imprecision of the DAC is frustrating. I want it to tell me when I'm accidentally muting or playing a string. I want it to be way more strict in timing of notes and sustains and bends. I suspect that would require custom electronics with a DAC on each string, but I'd be happy to buy that.

Re: How to Learn New Things as an Adult

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I know some chords: A, Am, C, C7, D, D7, E, Em, G, G7 I can switch between those fairly fluidly. Even Wild Thing has a solo part in the middle. A, D, and E really aren't enough, are they? Can you name a few other real songs that you think are early beginner level?

Knocking On Heaven's Door was the first 'real' song I could make sound halfway decent.

Bob Dylan's version?

Any other suggestions?

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