Does this have anything to do with a potential difficulty in establishing direct connections between Skype clients that are both on 3G networks? Are they running relays for these clients that they are trying to recuperate from?
Skype lies, breaks "Skype-to-Skype"calls are free promise
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#32I'm not bothered by this, because it's their funeral. There are other VoIP programs, it's not particularly difficult to write one, and with Android set to dominate open-architecture 3G phones, something else will dominate VoIP. Hopefully, something open source and using an open protocol. (SIP?) Oh and if you bought an iPhone and can't access the cost-free VoIP solution? That'll teach you to buy locked-down hardware,…
My guess is Google is gearing up to do to VoIP what it did with email.
Re: Skype lies, breaks "Skype-to-Skype"calls are free promise
#33was it a promise to be free forever? or just one of their features, which they are free to change whenever they wish?
Re: Skype lies, breaks "Skype-to-Skype"calls are free promise
#34This probably has to do with whether or not a device is able to participate in Skype's p2p call routing. If being on 3g introduces too much latency or has too limited bandwidth to contribute in the network, then each client will have a marginal cost to Skype. Maybe they're trying to ensure they can keep up with that.
Or maybe they're just grubbing for money.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was discussed here, probably when you brought it up last time. It's the same reason that gift cards expire and properly written NDA's have time limits. Nobody wants to owe somebody something until the universe dies, especially accountants, and especially if the people to whom that debt is owed, are dead or have forgotten about it. It would be insane to carry it on your books until doomsday.
I disagree with this, it's entirely possible for vendors to honour gift cards (and credits) indefinitely. In fact, here in Canada, in most provinces, if not all, it's law and has been for some time: http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/133713.html
The problem comes in the accounting. Try borrowing X million dollars against 2X million in assets when you have 4X outstanding debts that can be called in at any time. Sure, they probably won't be, and you might discount them to near zero, but the lender won't be so generous.
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#36I'm not bothered by this, because it's their funeral. There are other VoIP programs, it's not particularly difficult to write one, and with Android set to dominate open-architecture 3G phones, something else will dominate VoIP. Hopefully, something open source and using an open protocol. (SIP?) Oh and if you bought an iPhone and can't access the cost-free VoIP solution? That'll teach you to buy locked-down hardware,…
What are some good alternative providers?
Gizmo5 used to be a good alternative, and got purchased by google.
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#37What a sensationalist headline. So what if they've introduced charges? If someone else provides this for free, go there. If not, cough up!
I agree the sensationalist headline. The moderators should delete this submission. Inflammatory headlines do nothing to encourage discussion.
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#38From Skype's perspective, how is the cell network different from any other ISP? It's the carriers who will shoulder the burden; and there's no indication that any of the fee is going to them, given that Skype says "operator fees may still apply". I don't get it.
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#39I'm not bothered by this, because it's their funeral. There are other VoIP programs, it's not particularly difficult to write one, and with Android set to dominate open-architecture 3G phones, something else will dominate VoIP. Hopefully, something open source and using an open protocol. (SIP?) Oh and if you bought an iPhone and can't access the cost-free VoIP solution? That'll teach you to buy locked-down hardware,…
Can you explain what this has to do with the iPhone hardware? Skype is charging for this, not Apple or the telcos, right?
> Can you explain what this has to do with the iPhone hardware?
Nothing, cabalamat is just hating.
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#40I'm not bothered by this, because it's their funeral. There are other VoIP programs, it's not particularly difficult to write one, and with Android set to dominate open-architecture 3G phones, something else will dominate VoIP. Hopefully, something open source and using an open protocol. (SIP?) Oh and if you bought an iPhone and can't access the cost-free VoIP solution? That'll teach you to buy locked-down hardware,…
iPhone? I'm sure this will apply to Skype's Andrioid client, too. (Also, "you idiot"? Really?)